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in ceiling speaker layout

rad

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Hello, I am new. I am looking for any guidance on layout for in ceiling speakers in a room. Its a new build. The room is a kitchen area in a poolhouse that so speakers will function as background music at times and a bit louder for larger gatherings. Im not as concerned about volume but more of quality of sound at lower volumes. The current variable I am addressing is where to place the speakers in the ceiling. The room is 18x17 feet and has tongue and groove wood ceilings. I want to make the speaker foot print (size of the speakers) as small as possible without comprimising too much quality. Small aperature are out of my budget. Would a 6 inch speaker work rather than 8 inches and if so, any brand suggestions. For reference, Sonance visual experience is around my budget... Thanks for any suggestions!
 
Hi @rad! Welcome to ASR.

if you want to reduce the footprint while preserving sound quality, then a coaxial speaker from KEF is the obvious choice.

Namely the Ci200RR-THX or Ci160RR-THX.

The latter gives up some bass extension.
If the smaller size is worth that trade off, is up to you.
 
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ok, thanks. Without going to a small aperature speaker design, is there a 4 inch or so product out there that could work?
 
A 4" ceiling speaker for larger gatherings? I doubt it.
 
Regarding speaker placement, if you have a table or similar in the room, then try to mount the speaker right above it.

That way, everyone would be at roughly the same distance and angle to the speaker no matter where they are in the room, which would give them the most consistent sound experience.

Mounted off to the side, the person who happens to stand/sit right below the speaker would hear a much brighter sound than someone who's in the opposite corner.
 
Decades ago I worked for a contractor that installed ceiling speakers in supermarkets and stores, etc., for background music and paging. So I sort-of have a "feel" for it but nothing specific. But an Internet search turned-up several resources.

In those days 8-inches was the standard and they were rather cheap "full range" speakers with no separate tweeter. They also usually had attached transformers for Constant Voltage setups. That may not be necessary with your setup but if each speaker doesn't have its own amplifier channel you need to understand the implications of parallel or series speaker wiring.

And you might want to consider a couple of "zones". In a "party-like" situation when there are multiple conversations going-on there is a lot of background noise and background music becomes "impossible". The music competes with conversation and if you turn-up the music to hear it, it becomes more difficult to converse and you have to choose one or the other. Usually most people want to be able to talk while some people may want to more-clearly hear the music and some people may want to move between both locations, etc.
 
Different size speakers i believe have different dispersion patterns so the height and how far apart they are mounted has an effect on how much area you can cover at what volume. I might be wrong but some ver of that I think is true. Good luck on your endeavors.
 
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