As said, the said recording is extremely overprocessed anyway. The performer was a DJ and producer (wiki), and obviously more into commercial design than into arts as such. Some trick might have worked on his mixing console, but won't feel right on your personal stereo setup. Actually, who cares? I've learned from wiki, that a few recordings of his were a world-wide monetary success. I can't imagine that his music depended on particular specifica of the playback machinery. Even more so, I argue that a lack of a too precise fidelity to the source could have helped a lot ...Listening to the start of that Aviici track, on my AirPods Pro and Sonos One stereo pair the higher guitar notes are definitely panned slightly right and the bass plucks pan left to right before the vocals kick in. Weirdly enough on my desktop Genelec 8010 running direct from MacMini 2018 headphone jack via split xlr the high notes sound panned left. I checked polarity and the Genelecs are set up correctly. Weird.
How good are the concentric Tannoy Canterbury speakers? They certainly are beautiful to me.
@SDC You have two speakers (Salon 2 and 8351) in same room that are on my short list for purchase! Would really appreciate your thoughts on comparison between the two. Feel free to DM me so as not to derail this thread. Thanks!IMO, it is more psycoacoustic than real difference...
For example I had problem with 500XO horn and 18" woofer system. But fine with 4367 which has higher XO
right now i have 8351 and salon 2 in same room, change speaker is one click at DSP, there is tonal difference but vertical imaging stablilty is superb for both...
salon2 is 4way with tight ctc so maybe not a good choice to compair but still...
but long ctc and short listening distance creating large angular difference between units was real stress i agree
But i would love to know that too@SDC You have two speakers (Salon 2 and 8351) in same room that are on my short list for purchase! Would really appreciate your thoughts on comparison between the two. Feel free to DM me so as not to derail this thread. Thanks!
It is unfortunate that they do not have better sound. I was afraid of that.No good in contemporary terms regarding true-to-studio fidelity.
The looks, really?
I have a feeling that the height of phantom sources results from the listener’s imagination, and likely to vary from listener to listener.There is more than one effect. The curvature of the wavefront, the uniform tactile perception of the lower frequencies can provide a perception of a bigger soundstage. Reflections are also important but I am not an expert regarding floor and ceiling reflections and its influence on the perception of size.
Interesting some tricks can be made to pan a sound event in the median plane. But it can only be done with some sounds and I haven't heard of an effect like putting a event this high will listen to it tomorrow.
There is a stereo recording which has a sound event which circles around the listener in the horizontal plane and is very convincing, Gwely Mernans by Aphex Twin.
It is unfortunate that they do not have better sound. I was afraid of that.
Still quite rough, there are better offerings. Beauty can be argued, despite the common saying that it cannot be disputed. At least it can be related to a specific mindset.Here was the Churchill measurement
Tannoy Churchill loudspeaker Measurements
Sidebar 4: Measurements The humongous Churchill is one of the few high-sensitivity loudspeakers that actually meets its spec: my estimated B-weighted figure was exactly 95dB/2.83V/m. This speaker will go very loud with a single watt of power. Its impedance (fig.1) varied between 5 and 8 ohms...www.stereophile.com
I have a feeling that the height of phantom sources results from the listener’s imagination, and likely to vary from listener to listener.
Yes, I am the teashea on Cloudy Nights. Good to see you here.It’s probably not “horrible” but definitely more for the look than the sound.
If you are the teashea from CloudyNights, they are not your APO refractors…
Here was the Churchill measurement
Tannoy Churchill loudspeaker Measurements
Sidebar 4: Measurements The humongous Churchill is one of the few high-sensitivity loudspeakers that actually meets its spec: my estimated B-weighted figure was exactly 95dB/2.83V/m. This speaker will go very loud with a single watt of power. Its impedance (fig.1) varied between 5 and 8 ohms...www.stereophile.com
Which is better than the Klipschorn AK6
Klipsch Klipschorn AK6 loudspeaker Measurements
Sidebar 3: Measurements Because of the Klipschorn AK6's bulkeach weighs 220 lbI drove my test gear the 177 miles to Art's place and measured the speaker sitting on a furniture dolly in his driveway. I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system and a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the Klipschorn's...www.stereophile.com
The Tannoy look is distinct, and probably a very pleasant sound, albeit not the most accurate. That said, look at B&W and Klipsch. They are still loved by many.
Yes, I am the teashea on Cloudy Nights. Good to see you here.
I wonder if it would be feasible from a business perspective for Tannoy to team up with Genelec to get better technology for their speakers, since it would seem that Tannoy is commited to concentric speaker design. I really do like the cabinets.
HRTFs range dependency is one related topic where you can find a lot of research.If so, that raises another question: plane wave versus circular wave. Which of these possibilities is the The True HiFi? Could You please quote a scientific source for your suggestion? Or is it a derivative that you concluded from your studies in stereo?
I am actually more into questions regarding people who need hearing aid. Many of those would benefit from spatial discrimination of sound sources as to better participate in social life. The so called 'cocktail party effect' bothers these a lot.HRTFs range dependency is one related topic where you can find a lot of research.
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Edit: you can try to build a tiny stereo triangle with a coaxial or wideband speaker (listening distance about 30cm) and you will also find that there is a difference in the perception of the vertical size of the soundstage compared to a standard listening distance.