Im very confused with Amazon's 360 / Atmos

[manny]

Hello,

i was very happy discovering this forum and I like how people are very nice to each over here. Very knowledge too.
So I decided to throw in my problem:

I have a Samsung s21 and a kindle fire tablet. Both allow Dolby Atmos 360 and That's awesome.
On my main pc, i have a SoundBlaster Z with a Mass Drop Dac with XLR outputs going to a Drop THX 789 Xlr.

Running windows 11 on 32gb of ram, Aours ultra gaming MOBO and an AMD Ryzen 7 chip..

Why for the love of god, I cant get Dolby Atmos and 360 sound off the Amazon Music app?


Thanks

 

[abdo123]

Hello,

i was very happy discovering this forum and I like how people are very nice to each over here. Very knowledge too.
So I decided to throw in my problem:

I have a Samsung s21 and a kindle fire tablet. Both allow Dolby Atmos 360 and That's awesome.
On my main pc, i have a SoundBlaster Z with a Mass Drop Dac with XLR outputs going to a Drop THX 789 Xlr.

Running windows 11 on 32gb of ram, Aours ultra gaming MOBO and an AMD Ryzen 7 chip..

Why for the love of god, I cant get Dolby Atmos and 360 sound off the Amazon Music app?


Thanks

I don't think Atmos decoding is supported on Windows at all, i think you need an AVR and a connection via HDMI.

 

[pjn]

I don't think Atmos decoding is supported on Windows at all, i think you need an AVR and a connection via HDMI.

Possibly necessary to jump through a few hoops first? Or perhaps Windows 11 is a an audio downgrade? But it does also seem to be hardware dependent.

How to Use Dolby Atmos Surround Sound on Windows 10

Windows 10’s Creators Update added support for Dolby Atmos positional sound. This includes two things: Support for Dolby Atmos hardware and virtual Dolby Atmos sound that works in any pair of headphones.

www.howtogeek.com

on Win 11:

How to Install Dolby Atmos on your Windows 11 PC or Laptop | Techschumz

In this guide, we will show you two simple methods on how to download and install Dolby Atmos on your Windows 11 PC or laptop (HP, Dell, Lenovo)

techschumz.com

 

[polmuaddib]

No Atmos on windows Amazon or Tidal app. It’s a conspiracy so that you have to buy nvidia shield or apple tv. I tried Amazon on windows and immediately canceled my subscription when I found out Atmos is not available for windows.

 

[manny]

I don't think Atmos decoding is supported on Windows at all, i think you need an AVR and a connection via HDMI.

But, How does my phone and tablet support it? Im confused.

 

[manny]

Possibly necessary to jump through a few hoops first? Or perhaps Windows 11 is a an audio downgrade? But it does also seem to be hardware dependent.

How to Use Dolby Atmos Surround Sound on Windows 10

Windows 10’s Creators Update added support for Dolby Atmos positional sound. This includes two things: Support for Dolby Atmos hardware and virtual Dolby Atmos sound that works in any pair of headphones.

www.howtogeek.com

on Win 11:

How to Install Dolby Atmos on your Windows 11 PC or Laptop | Techschumz

In this guide, we will show you two simple methods on how to download and install Dolby Atmos on your Windows 11 PC or laptop (HP, Dell, Lenovo)

techschumz.com

I might have to take a look at my purchases. I think I had purchase it on my xbox and never worked.
Thanks

 

[Beershaun]

But, How does my phone and tablet support it? Im confused.

Microsoft did not pay the licensing fees to provide Dolby Atmos support.. likely because most folks won't need it on a PC those that do can easily download the software and pay the small fee. Your phone and tablet support it because Apple or Google paid the fees to support it. Thats one of the reasons a phone costs as much as a PC even though a PC is much more powerful and flexible.

 

[Vini darko]

Hello,

i was very happy discovering this forum and I like how people are very nice to each over here. Very knowledge too.
So I decided to throw in my problem:

I have a Samsung s21 and a kindle fire tablet. Both allow Dolby Atmos 360 and That's awesome.
On my main pc, i have a SoundBlaster Z with a Mass Drop Dac with XLR outputs going to a Drop THX 789 Xlr.

Running windows 11 on 32gb of ram, Aours ultra gaming MOBO and an AMD Ryzen 7 chip..

Why for the love of god, I cant get Dolby Atmos and 360 sound off the Amazon Music app?


Thanks

Hi welcome to asr. You could try using an android emulator and using the android version of amazon unlimited on the pc.
My experience with amazon atmos (on stereo headphones and speakers) so far is it seems like a gimmick. Boosted sub bass , somewhat muddy mids and weird peaks in the upper mids and treble.

 

[polmuaddib]

Microsoft did not pay the licensing fees to provide Dolby Atmos support..

i don’t understand. There IS support for Atmos on windows. You can select Atmos under spatial audio when windows connects to an Atmos capable output device.
So what more license is there to pay?
If there is general support for Atmos on windows why would Microsoft pay for license for every app?

 

[polmuaddib]

I bought Apple tv just for the ability to play Atmos tracks on Tidal and I am pleased how those tracks are mixed. It’s better then regular upmix.
I am sorry that I can’t use Apple TV more because there is no audio bitstream.
You can’t win today and have one device that plays all formats.
It’s a conspiracy, I tell you

 

[EB1000]

No such thing as Dolby Atmos 360. It's either Dolby Atmos or 360 reality audio which is a useless 2 channel format intended for binaural headphone listening and does not work well on most headphones unless you buy a Sony 360 certified wireless headphones with Sony's app. The only way to get Atmos from Amazon music is to use Apple TV 4k hooked to an AVR via HDMI

 

[abdo123]

No Atmos on windows Amazon or Tidal app. It’s a conspiracy so that you have to buy nvidia shield or apple tv. I tried Amazon on windows and immediately canceled my subscription when I found out Atmos is not available for windows.

I think it's more likely that once something is no longer protected by HDMI AND is available on a mainstream relatively open platform (Windows) it will be cracked easily like an Egg.

 

[polmuaddib]

I think it's more likely that once something is no longer protected by HDMI AND is available on a mainstream relatively open platform (Windows) it will be cracked easily like an Egg.

What do you mean exactly? What will be cracked?
Most people that use Amazon music on pc use it for stereo polayback. That’s not limited in any way.
Crackers usually crack something that is mainstream. Not something that is a niche like immersive audio.
I believe Amazon, Tidal and others went into Atmos because of marketing. And they offer gimmicky headphone stereo effect.
Atmos for proper surround sound is only pursued by very few people.

 

[abdo123]

What do you mean exactly? What will be cracked?
Most people that use Amazon music on pc use it for stereo polayback. That’s not limited in any way.
Crackers usually crack something that is mainstream. Not something that is a niche like immersive audio.
I believe Amazon, Tidal and others went into Atmos because of marketing. And they offer gimmicky headphone stereo effect.
Atmos for proper surround sound is only pursued by very few people.

The proprietary format would be cracked.

 

[polmuaddib]

Ok. Thanks.
I am just sorry that this third chance for surround sound (after quadraphonic and later SACD and DVD audio) is doomed.

 

[Beershaun]

i don’t understand. There IS support for Atmos on windows. You can select Atmos under spatial audio when windows connects to an Atmos capable output device.
So what more license is there to pay?
If there is general support for Atmos on windows why would Microsoft pay for license for every app?

I took the OP question to mean plugging headphones into the headphone jack on a laptop and requiring Windows to decode the Atmos tracks. Not passing it through to an outboard Atmos decoding device. I am thinking in your case the outboard device has done the decoding, like an AVR.