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I'm fed up with my turntable to streamer solution

AlfaNovember

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I'd like some help brainstorming on my lone analog hold-out. Asking here in DIY because this project departed the realm of commercial products long ago.

Having converted the house over to multi-room streaming via Roon, I set out some years ago to keep the turntable available. My solution was to tuck a Hagerman Bugle phono unit inside the plinth, connect the line-level analog to a Hifiberry ADC on a Raspberry PI 3, and run ethernet out the back. The Pi runs icecast to capture the ADC, and Roon picks up the data as a streaming radio station. I am not fully satisfied with this arrangement for several reasons:

1) I'm chasing a hum problem (and doing so upside down in a closed box.) There's probably a relative ground problem between the devices. The Hagerman runs on 12V and the Pi takes 5.1V; right now they each have separate power supplies. The Hagerman has a small linear, the PI is a cheap USB charging switcher. My original plan was to buck the 12V down to 5V with a dc-dc converter, but the Hag didn't seem to have the current for both. There's 120VAC under the plinth, and I suppose I could engineer up a dual-output supply, but.. I'm not feeling inspired. Not keen to add an external powersupply brick, due to living room aesthetics, but I do have a multi-output laptop-style brick available in the junque box.

2) Setting input levels on the HiFiBerry is done with alsamixer, and I'm just guessing. Seems like it needs a lot of gain, and the needle-drop sounds are pronounced. The Bugle has adjustable gain, maybe I crank that up?

3) I haven't listened to it in some time, but I feel like the sound was mostly just okay. Granted, I can't expect vast S/N from my collection of battered old vinyl, but wondering if maybe the Phono into the ADC is a poor impedance match or lousy ADC chip or.. something.

The turntable is a late 60's Pioneer PL-41 with a Denon DL-103 cart. The TT and the speakers are the living room, while the rest of the streaming rig is one floor straight down in the garage. Speakers are driven from a JBL CSA-120 amp in the garage, a nifty little Crown design for small commercial fixed installations.

I have half a mind to abandon digital streaming, build a meters-long analog interconnect, and run the line level signal out of the Hagerman down through the floor to a remotely-triggered analog input switcher before the power amp (if such a product exists.)

Any thoughts on hum, levels, longish runs of analog signal or novel left-field solutions warmly appreciated.


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1) I'm chasing a hum problem (and doing so upside down in a closed box.) There's probably a relative ground problem between the devices
Before you assume it's a ground problem, have you totally eliminated electromagnetic noise direct from the motor?
 
Before you assume it's a ground problem, have you totally eliminated electromagnetic noise direct from the motor?
I had not; regardless of playing a record, the icecast stream from the Pi can be active and streaming the noise floor of the system. The motor being powered on does not influence the buzz, so I'd assumed it wasn't a big factor. I did choose the layout with an eye towards keeping the smallest phono signals away from the motor, and crossing wires at perpendiculars where possible.

I've spent some time with it last night, and made some progress. Some judicious alligator-clipping to join ground of phono stage to the ADC hat ground, (not just the Pi) dropped the buzz level considerably. I said "hum", but it's better called a "buzz" - 60 or 120Hz fundamental with strong harmonics.

Listening to it now, the sound quality is improved? tolerable? better than I was remembering? that nasty buzz was overlaying everything and surely masking or otherwise yucking all over the music.
 

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