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I Stuffed My Ported Speakers: The Results Pleasantly Surprised Me

My theory is that now that the port is stuffed, the woofer can finally focus on reproducing accurate low mids instead of trying to pump out fake 60hz.
Ports control the frequency at which the air volume in the cabinet resonates, and actually reduces cone excursion at and around the resonant frequency. In poor implementations, though, ports can produce noise. Also, ports introduce more group delay in the low frequencies.

Honestly this was a really pleasant surprise to me. Wish I would’ve done it earlier. I guess it goes to show that ported systems are sold and catered to a target market for people that want more bass in the exchange of accuracy. My next speakers will very likely end up being a sealed cab no doubt.
I prefer a sealed cabinet. But the tradeoff is low frequency extension. I also plugged the ports on my speakers and I use a carefully integrated subwoofer to fill in the low frequencies.
 
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Ports control the frequency at which the air volume in the cabinet resonates, and actually reduces cone excursion at and around the resonant frequency. In poor implementations, though, ports can produce noise. Also, ports introduce more group delay in the low frequencies.


I prefer a sealed cabinet. But the tradeoff is low frequency extension. I also plugged the ports on my speakers and I use a carefully integrated subwoofer to fill in the low frequencies.
Ports just cause more problems in rooms. ports can be so slow and sluggish to the point where it can exaggerate certain nulls in the lows because by the time those frequencies try to be produced by the woofer it’s long enough to make a null or make a null much worst. In a sealed box you get more accuracy for mixing and mastering, and you lessen the need for a lot of room acoustics. This is just my opinion tho and from what I have seen. Also, for me at least I’d rather take accurate and tight bass over boomy and hyped.

More ports= more marketed to consumers that liked hyped small speakers or that’s what they can afford..which is OK I understand. Otherwise how would companies like Genelec and other big names make profit if they only sold their big sealed 3 way designs? They obviously wouldn’t sell as much. So they make these ported 5” , 6” or 8” designs that try to output more bass than they can to appeal to the consumers. But the bass isn’t as accurate and sloppy to the point where you would need spend a fortune a lot on bass traps
 
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Ports just cause more problems in rooms. ports can be so slow and sluggish to the point where it can exaggerate certain nulls in the lows because by the time those frequencies try to be produced by the woofer it’s long enough to make a null or make a null much worst.
You can make a good speaker either way and in a blind listening test you can't tell whether a speaker is ported or not. A badly designed ported speaker can be boomy but that's rare these days, except maybe for some car subwoofers.

With measurements, the steepness of the roll-off can be a clue but there are so many other variations in speakers that you can't really "hear" the slope of the roll-off... The cutoff frequency is easier to hear/notice. Once it's rolling-off you've just got "weak bass" and there can be many causes for that.

This is a different speaker but I found this Floyd Toole quote amusing:
The NS-10M was admired because of its "tight" bass, a consequence of the deficiency of bass fundamental frequencies.
 
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ports can be so slow and sluggish to the point where it can exaggerate certain nulls in the lows because by the time those frequencies try to be produced by the woofer it’s long enough to make a null or make a null much worst.
I have not experienced that but, as noted, ports introduce high group delay. But, equalizing with IIR filters also introduces group delay. I have seen it stated that mimicking the performance of a port with an IIR filter introduces just as much group delay as does a port. I have not verified that, though.

More ports= more marketed to consumers that liked hyped small speakers or that’s what they can afford..which is OK I understand. Otherwise how would companies like Genelec and other big names make profit if they only sold their big sealed 3 way designs? They obviously wouldn’t sell as much. So they make these ported 5” , 6” or 8” designs that try to output more bass than they can to appeal to the consumers. But the bass isn’t as accurate and sloppy to the point will then spend a fortune a lot on bass traps.
Ports have their advantages and disadvantages. Generally speaking, in a system that does not have a subwoofer, I think the advantages of a well designed port outweigh the disadvantages. I never have used bass traps, and I have had some ported speakers that perform fairly well. Much depends on the room in which the speakers are placed.

In a system using a subwoofer, generally I prefer sealed speakers. But, even that has the disadvantage of not being able to cross the speakers to the subwoofer as low in frequency. For some systems, e.g., where the crossover slopes are not steep enough and the subwoofer is not in an optimum location, that can mess up the soundstage. Also, far too often, people do not take in-room frequency response measurements and properly tune the subwoofer integration.
 
You can make a good speaker either way and in a blind listening test you can't tell whether a speaker is ported or not. A badly designed ported speaker can be boomy but that's rare these days, except maybe for some car subwoofers.

With measurements, the steepness of the roll-off can be a clue but there are so many other variations in speakers that you can't really "hear" the slope of the roll-off... The cutoff frequency is easier to hear/notice. Once it's rolling-off you've just got "weak bass" and there can be many causes for that.

This is a different speaker but I found this Floyd Toole quote amusing:
The ns10 is fast because of its closed design not necessarily because of the lack of bass. The Kh310 has a lot of bass but it’s accurate and fast due to its sealing
 
I have not experienced that but, as noted, ports introduce high group delay. But, equalizing with IIR filters also introduces group delay. I have seen it stated that mimicking the performance of a port with an IIR filter introduces just as much group delay as does a port. I have not verified that, though.


Ports have their advantages and disadvantages. Generally speaking, in a system that does not have a subwoofer, I think the advantages of a well designed port outweigh the disadvantages. I never have used bass traps, and I have had some ported speakers that perform fairly well. Much depends on the room in which the speakers are placed.

In a system using a subwoofer, generally I prefer sealed speakers. But, even that has the disadvantage of not being able to cross the speakers to the subwoofer as low in frequency. For some systems, e.g., where the crossover slopes are not steep enough and the subwoofer is not in an optimum location, that can mess up the soundstage. Also, far too often, people do not take in-room frequency response measurements and properly tune the subwoofer integration.
Ports can be ok if you have the right room and a lot of bass traps. Then they can work better for mixing although it isn’t as ideal. Maybe if u enjoy Hi-Fi listening and like it that way then okay that’s fine.. I’m specifically talking about mixing and mastering, where a sealed cab is far superior to the ported designs IMO. When I see three ways that are ported it’s just comes across as a mediocre cheap speaker to me that’s trying to impress me with bass than give me accuracy. I heavily trust my intuition when it comes to speakers
 
I have not experienced that but, as noted, ports introduce high group delay. But, equalizing with IIR filters also introduces group delay. I have seen it stated that mimicking the performance of a port with an IIR filter introduces just as much group delay as does a port. I have not verified that, though.
Yes, that is largely correct for the dominant group delay component. The major difference is that a port will have a longer decay. If you design a port well, this isn’t really an issue.
 
So given all the back and forth without proofs , there is not a solid scientific conclusion on the matter here ? Just opinions and maybe physco-acoustics involved ?
I've been confused about this for years myself.
 
So given all the back and forth without proofs , there is not a solid scientific conclusion on the matter here ? Just opinions and maybe physco-acoustics involved ?
I've been confused about this for years myself.

Why would there be? Clearly in some circumstances it is advantageous, in others it isn't. I did measurements in my room and there wasn't a big difference (LS50 come with 3 options when it comes to port "management")... but that's just my room. I used the "medium option" to make the port smaller as I have a sub. Measured marginally better and sounded the best to me with the music I optimized things for.
 
As to what specifically? If you are asking about port vs no port in general, it much depends on the use case and listener preferences.

Agree, so, for a given room, the answer really depends on the speaker and the drivers used. Some continue to confuse design choices with application options. A good designer makes a choice of the box design and optimizes it.

A vented speaker that applies foam port plugs is NOT sealed. The port plugs are a variation on a vented speaker. The plugs will push the design more towards a sealed one, but is not the same. If you really seal a vented speaker, you are likely to have done half the job as the box volume is likely way higher than its more ideal sealed volume. Anyone who has spent time with speaker design software knows this well.

I think you know this but just wanted to emphasize that sealed and plugged are NOT the same.
 
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I guess that there is more phase rotation when using a bass-reflex speaker than when using a sealed speaker, but that's a product of the slope of the bass response.

Come to think of it, the KH310 looks like its bass response drops like a rock past 40 Hz, there must be an EQ filter somewhere, with an equally sharp phase rotation as a bass-reflex would add. Maybe?
It's certainly EQ'd. Linkwitz Transform etc.

The ns10 is fast because of its closed design not necessarily because of the lack of bass. The Kh310 has a lot of bass but it’s accurate and fast due to its sealing
The NS10 has no low end below about 90hz. Like... Seriously. It's not "fast", it's deficient.
 
It's certainly EQ'd. Linkwitz Transform etc.

The NS10 has no low end below about 90hz. Like... Seriously. It's not "fast", it's deficient.
What it lacks in bass it makes up for in aggressive treble, though!

With respect to comments about "configurable BR ports" (i.e., port management) in several recent posts:
Lossy (i.e., not so sealed) boxes have been a thing for a long time (cf. the aforementioned aperiodic damping).

Those who are really port-averse should consider infinite baffles.
Closets were (somewhat) popular in the early days of hifi -- although the coming of stereo sort of squelched enthusiasm for that approach. :0

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source: https://products.electrovoice.com/binary/Bulletin10A.pdf
 
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So given all the back and forth without proofs , there is not a solid scientific conclusion on the matter here ? Just opinions and maybe physco-acoustics involved ?
I've been confused about this for years myself.
This post shows the generalized trade-off between sealed and ported speakers. The ported speaker has a lower -3dB cutoff frequency, but at some point the curves cross and the sealed box puts out more sound. You can tune the port with a slight bump before cutoff to extend the cutoff a bit lower. The slight bump may be unnoticeable or even desirable. Or you can you over-do the bump and get "bad sound".

You can play-around and simulate design variations with speaker design software. WinISD is FREE.

Most pro subwoofers used live and in clubs are large ported boxes tuned to go down to about 40Hz. That's about the lowest note on a standard bass guitar and it's low enough for bass you can feel in your body. The compromises allow for high efficiency and enough SPL to fill a large venue with bass.

A lot of home subwoofers are in smaller sealed boxes and with EQ and tons of power they can fill a smaller space with bass that goes down to 20Hz. (EQ doesn't work as well to extend ported woofers... The woofers end-up moving a lot without putting-out much sound.)
 
^^^ Indeed.
One of the risks of ported enclosures is that the woofer is essentially unloaded at very low frequencies (i.e., with respect to the port tuning).
 
For those who might not be comfortable with speaker design software, here is a comparison of the effect of various port plugs here...

 
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