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I don't like The Beatles, am I the only one?

Pearljam5000 said:
Lol OK
But
There aren't any legendary bands or albums made in the last 20 years or so that are as good or better than the music that was made in 90's
That's for sure
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LOL see that's where each generation's choices will rule. For me 60s/70s was best in several ways but also highlighted a shift in public opinion/politics, not something modern music does much of.
 
Robin L said:
Try to imagine it's 1971 and one hears Beethoven's 15th quartet in A minor, opus 132 for the first time.
Now imagine that this is happening in 1932.
Now imagine it's happening right now.
There are degrees of immortality, though in time everything will wear out.
But some things are more durable than others.
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Hearing Beethoven's 9th symphony's premiere (first performance) would fit my analogy.
The point being that those two albums, and Beethoven's last symphony, were, in toto, unlike anything that came before them.
 
mhardy6647 said:
Hearing Beethoven's 9th symphony's premiere (first performance) would fit my analogy.
The point being that those two albums, and Beethoven's last symphony, were, in toto, unlike anything that came before them.
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But I do remember hearing Who's Next when it came out.
According to reports, the first performance of Beethoven's Chorale Symphony was some sort of a train wreck.
And the A minor quartet is a different sort of beast altogether.
I noted a date in the 1930s for Beethoven's 15th quartet as the work didn't get regularly played until the 1930s.
 
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A few snippets from Richie Unterberger's biography of The Beatles:-

"So much has been said and written about the Beatles -- and their story is so mythic in its sweep -- that it's difficult to summarize their career without restating clichés ...they were the greatest and most influential act of the rock era, and they introduced more innovations into popular music than any other group of their time....they were among the few artists of any discipline who were simultaneously the best at what they did and the most popular at what they did. Relentlessly imaginative and experimental,... always staying ahead of the pack in terms of creativity and never losing the ability to communicate their increasingly sophisticated ideas to a mass audience. Their supremacy as rock icons remains unchallenged to this day... They synthesized all that was good about early rock & roll and changed it into something original and even more exciting. They established the prototype for the self-contained rock group that wrote and performed its own material. As composers, their craft and melodic inventiveness were second to none; they were key to the evolution of rock from its blues/R&B-based forms into a style that was far more eclectic, but equally visceral. As singers, both John Lennon and Paul McCartney were among the best and most expressive vocalists in rock, and the group's harmonies were intricate and exhilarating. ...in the studio, they proved instrumental in pioneering advanced techniques and multi-layered arrangements. ...the popularity of the Beatles, however, proved eternal....like any great works of art, the Beatles' records carried an ageless magnificence that continues to captivate new generations of listeners."

A career rock historian pretty much only gets to write the above statements, once. And that's as individual statements: to amass them all in describing one group, says something about The Beatles.

cheers
 
Newman said:
A few snippets from Richie Unterberger's biography of The Beatles:-

"So much has been said and written about the Beatles -- and their story is so mythic in its sweep -- that it's difficult to summarize their career without restating clichés ...they were the greatest and most influential act of the rock era, and they introduced more innovations into popular music than any other group of their time....they were among the few artists of any discipline who were simultaneously the best at what they did and the most popular at what they did. Relentlessly imaginative and experimental,... always staying ahead of the pack in terms of creativity and never losing the ability to communicate their increasingly sophisticated ideas to a mass audience. Their supremacy as rock icons remains unchallenged to this day... They synthesized all that was good about early rock & roll and changed it into something original and even more exciting. They established the prototype for the self-contained rock group that wrote and performed its own material. As composers, their craft and melodic inventiveness were second to none; they were key to the evolution of rock from its blues/R&B-based forms into a style that was far more eclectic, but equally visceral. As singers, both John Lennon and Paul McCartney were among the best and most expressive vocalists in rock, and the group's harmonies were intricate and exhilarating. ...in the studio, they proved instrumental in pioneering advanced techniques and multi-layered arrangements. ...the popularity of the Beatles, however, proved eternal....like any great works of art, the Beatles' records carried an ageless magnificence that continues to captivate new generations of listeners."

A career rock historian pretty much only gets to write the above statements, once. And that's as individual statements: to amass them all in describing one group, says something about The Beatles.

cheers
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Yeah, but, in 2024, unless Rick Beato says it in a youtube video, it doesn't count!
;) :cool:

He's become the sine qua non for some reason that utterly escapes me...
 
Chrispy said:
LOL see that's where each generation's choices will rule. For me 60s/70s was best in several ways but also highlighted a shift in public opinion/politics, not something modern music does much of.
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Audiences are now too fragmented to produce superstars that appeal to diverse age groups.

I can’t say for sure that I’ve heard a Taylor Swift song.

The Beatles begat three successful feature films: Hard Days Night, Help, and Yellow Submarine. Then there’s the biopic, and Across The Universe. I’ve seen a fair number of biopics, but they came and went.
 
mhardy6647 said:
Yeah, but, in 2024, unless Rick Beato says it in a youtube video, it doesn't count!
;) :cool:

He's become the sine qua non for some reason that utterly escapes me...
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Meh on Beato myself. He once in a while has something worth watching all the way thru....
 
Petrushka said:
Audiences are now too fragmented to produce superstars that appeal to diverse age groups.

I can’t say for sure that I’ve heard a Taylor Swift song.

The Beatles begat three successful feature films: Hard Days Night, Help, and Yellow Submarine. Then there’s the biopic, and Across The Universe. I’ve seen a fair number of biopics, but they came and went.
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When I read your first sentence Taylor Swift popped into my head (as well as some other pop stars). The movies for the Beatles were....interesting. Never really mattered to me as much as the albums.
 
Petrushka said:
I have no idea who Rick Beato is.
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He produces a lot of You Tube videos, interviewing a lot of very skilled musicians. He apparently knows a lot about music theory.


 
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Petrushka said:
Audiences are now too fragmented to produce superstars that appeal to diverse age groups.

I can’t say for sure that I’ve heard a Taylor Swift song.

The Beatles begat three successful feature films: Hard Days Night, Help, and Yellow Submarine. Then there’s the biopic, and Across The Universe. I’ve seen a fair number of biopics, but they came and went.
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I like Fiona's version more than the original song
 
Chrispy said:
Also to an extent the marketing of their manager Brian Epstein. Lots of things came together for their success....
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It's true that people think of the four most visible faces of the phenomenon as the source of the music. There were a lot of people that made the Fab Four a thing. And they were also given credit where it really belonged elsewhere. The Beatles weren't the only band who successfully incorporated new electronics and new electronic treatments into their hits.
 
Robin L said:
It's true that people think of the four most visible faces of the phenomenon as the source of the music. There were a lot of people that made the Fab Four a thing. And they were also given credit where it really belonged elsewhere. The Beatles weren't the only band who successfully incorporated new electronics and new electronic treatments into their hits.
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In a way they were late to the latest/greatest electronics in the studio, they did quite well with existing tech. They never really saw the greatest tech.....
 
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