I think even though their outside is relatively compact, internal volume is large due to the thin aluminum cabinet. Which by the way is very rigid. They feel really solid (so do the 8030C's). And... well... they are really well designed and engineered.
Not the most recent versions. The 8351A has a toroidal, but not the 8351B AFAIK. And a universal power supply which is one of the reasons I could purchase a EU spec product and use it in the US with the proper power cord.
Remember you can't change the laws of physics and only so much can be accomplished with 2 x 8.6 oval drivers, a small housing, and a bunch of DSP.
My room is 19x16x8 feet and I’m about 10 feet away from the speakers. Speakers are against the long side and the room is untreated and asymmetrical. It is a rectangle but with multiple openings and different surfaces - it’s my living room. I always had trouble integrating large speakers and subs in that room. The 8351B is no exception, even with the -4dB bass tilt (it sounds good though), but once it is calibrated with GLM, it’s just something else. Bass is voluminous but well balanced, well articulated and perfectly integrated with the higher frequencies. I really don’t feel the need to clutter my living area with subs... I’m sure Genelec subs would sound perfect calibrated with GLM though. And they also play very loud with little distortion. You need to keep an eye on the volume, it’s easy to go too loud.
Good to hear, dang well shouldn't be.
Bass reflex does make this a bit more complicated, but a subwoofer would obviously be more than welcome with a few meters of distance; though both @echopraxia and @EchoChamber seem to say that its output defies its size. But when you consider that the woofer area is around the same as a 9" (9.3" to be exact, but these aren't rectangular) round woofer, that the woofers' amplifier's power went from 150 to 250W and the woofer to midrange crossover frequency fom 490 to 320 Hz, it isn't that unbelievable. I mean, both the KH420 and 8260A have a 10" woofer with very high internal volume, proper porting and lots of watts and they don't exactly need a sub.Remember you can't change the laws of physics and only so much can be accomplished with 2 x 8.6 oval drivers, a small housing, and a bunch of DSP.
Now that I look at it, it's too bad you can't place them near a solid wall, you're losing something like 6 dB of free bass.I just got my 8351B’s delivered yesterday, and was able to assemble them today. They look awesome and sound “pretty good” stock with Analog inputs from my Dac8. Haven’t had a chance to spend any time listening critically yet... DSM and Digital hook up is next... Thank you all helping define this purchase!!
PS: Isopods will be removed when I find my set of star keys.
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Great post, thank you for sharing! There was no dampening material inside, right? Interesting...I just wonder what ADC/DAC chip is in there.
On the online, There is no answer about it So I opened my 8351B.
After all the processes, I realized that the chip is just in back panel..But I'm satisfied to see what's in there. Anyway, the chip is AKM AK4621EF. Not so high end chip but fairly good. And the Condenser used in power supply(Samwha) is from South Korea (my country)! I'm so glad to see it!
Although there was a problem that wind noise occurs after reassemble but finally I found the cause and everything is okay
If there are anyone who want to disassemble Genelec, please care about the BOLTS!
Yes, and history of milions of dollars spent on research and development, plus the casted aluminium enclosures, which is technology where only the molds cost like small house. Your smart-ass comment has no value, except of the obvious disclosure of the fact, that you don´t know what you are talking about
Beautiful setup! I'd like to hear more about this difference, with the usual ASR invocation of blind testing, calibrated levels, measurements, etc. I have 8331s and am using the analogue inputs.
I’d suggest you try it with your 8331 and see which set up connects you more with the music. The digital connection using GLM for volume was Genelec’s recommended optimal set up when I was questioning their different monitor models and whether or not I should go with a SAM model. To me the subjective differences are very obvious - I didn’t expect them to be. The sound went from excellent to OMG!!
Any component addition introduces a small amount of distortion and loss (that migh or not be heard or felt), and all signals must go through Genelec’s DAC. From a purely logical point of view, I think it makes sense to minimize that path and go digital to avoid the unnecessary extra DA-AD sending an analog signal from a DAC. I keep my Dac8 in the mix for functionality and ease of use (I share the system with 3 other humans) so I can have other sources available outside of my computer such as AirPlay and Toslink.
You are right... Years ago I had a dedicated listening system in my basement, but I ended up never listening to it, because I didn’t really feel like spending long periods of time in there by myself... My living room is far from perfect acoustically, but I feel the room correction technology Genelec offers makes the most out of that space. And it is a much nicer place to spend time in.
I was saying this in the context of GLM use. Otherwise, you should do some EQ on the 8030C yourself; personally, I use drc-fir/brutefir.
