I bought GiK panels works really well

[Mnyb]

Inspired in part by this tread .

Please don't buy acoustic panels from GIK Acoustics, they are rubbish!

a) that is simply not true and you know that, we never received any of your traps. No one would bring this up two years after they received a product, yet we still wanted to look into this and you failed to make it possible. b) You are still making up facts and this is the problem here, ECOSE...

www.audiosciencereview.com

And another tread I can’t find about treating the wall directly behind you if your forced to sitt rigth against a wall ( the sofa is there )

Products and delivery was exactly as expected nothing at all to report .

Thanks to op in the tread above to make me aware of the brand he did not manage to discrete your brand @LukasRimbach

 

[Puddingbuks]

There are many respectable brands, but you can also make absorption panels yourself.

Treating my room with many thick 10-15cm absorption panels is still my biggest sound upgrade. More detail, more “between the notes” / silence, better hearing the room in the recording, reverb trails.

 

[Mnyb]

There are many respectable brands, but you can also make absorption panels yourself.

Treating my room with many thick 10-15cm absorption panels is still my biggest sound upgrade. More detail, more “between the notes” / silence, better hearing the room in the recording, reverb trails.

I liked the very wide assortment of types thickness materials and fabrics and other options and the one stop shop GIK seems to offer .

My dyi skills could not beat the look , I could possibly made similar myself but they would have looked like cr*p . The price was fair considering that much of the headaches where solved beforehand.
No acoustic treatment looks fantastic , but the white fabrics I picked is very similar to the white wall they sit on .

Yes the sound just snaps into focus and are calmer and less messy at the same time and less listening fatigue, and I just treated part the wall behind my listening position, but others in the family don’t care as much so it’s okay to optimise for one listener together with room eq.

I need to retune my bass EQ a tiny bit as even these 7.5 cm panels reach the upper bass a bit I only use EQ below the transition frequency btw

 

[quattro98]

Do you have any pictures? I'm looking at adding panels to the ceiling (only practical place to put panels in our living room). I could go with the standard GIK white fabric to have them blend in a little bit or a contrasting color in the Guilford fabric which looks nicely textured (have samples of those).

 

[Soniclife]

Any before and after measurements?

 

[Mnyb]

Any before and after measurements?

I only measured the bass range before and after i should have measured higher to give you guys more info :/ .
That was similar but some differences i redid my EQ and sub xover accordingly .

I usually only correct by measurement below the transition frequency .

 

[Mnyb]

here my corrections

 

[Mnyb]

Small adjustments in the bass only .

 

[Mnyb]

If I apply the psy filter one can see some probably SBIR related dipps between 100-200 Hz but it does not sound like it to me .
I will learn and experiment more ?
But i use the conservative aproach of to not boost "holes" as this does not really work . I've only cut the peaks and applied some general shelf to get some subjective bass level back . I also use -0,25dB treble in the KEF speakers . Subjectively it works well I usen only 5 peqs

Both speakers both subs measured in my listening position .

 

[Mnyb]

 

[Mnyb]

Do you have any pictures? I'm looking at adding panels to the ceiling (only practical place to put panels in our living room). I could go with the standard GIK white fabric to have them blend in a little bit or a contrasting color in the Guilford fabric which looks nicely textured (have samples of those).

I bougth them in "Inloom Bondai Upgraded Fabrics" in white as i have white walls

 

[Mnyb]

Some before and after, note that speakers are moved a bit , sub xover and level slighly different measurment only goes to 500Hz , but you can see that they start to do something .
I get that there be some comb filtery mess sitting close to the wall.

These are uncorrected responses

look over 200 Hz it's clearly dampened something.

with smoothing

 

[Soniclife]

Some before and after, note that speakers are moved a bit , sub xover and level slighly different measurment only goes to 500Hz , but you can see that they start to do something .
I get that there be some comb filtery mess sitting close to the wall.

These are uncorrected responses

look over 200 Hz it's clearly dampened something.View attachment 424836

with smoothing
View attachment 424840

Is there anything interesting to see in the time decay graphs?

 

[quattro98]

I bougth them in "Inloom Bondai Upgraded Fabrics" in white as i have white walls

Thank you! Interestingly, it looks like the fabrics in the US and Europe differ.

 

[Mnyb]

My photos are from a phone in bad lightning conditions

 

[quattro98]

My photos are from a phone in bad lightning conditions

That's what all my photo's of our system look like. The upgrade fabric GIK uses in the US is Guilford of Maine FR701.

 

[anotherhobby]

I have 6 GIK Alpha panels in my office. Two 4" thick square ones (23"x23") directly over head, and then two square 4" thick and two square 6" thick on the back wall. The difference when I installed them was dramatic to my ears, and I've been very happy with them in the years since I installed them. Along with 5 other 2'x4'x4" absorbers from ATS, the treatments did make a measurable difference in my office, but I have long since lost track of those measurements. I also have 4 of their 2" thick alpha panels that I used in a music/piano room that massively helped in that space.

Now I'm currently nearing completion of a home theater project in my basement, and since I've had a positive experience with the Alpha panels in my office, I decided to go the same route with a fleet of 6" thick alpha panels in the theater, along with a bunch of the GIK monster traps (7.3" thick). A total of 27 panels was ordered for $5,500 before tax/shipping. All of the panels are Charcoal fabric, and the alpha panels all have black scatter plates.

I know I could have saved a bunch with DIY, but doing DIY on that many panels is just way more than I want to take on.

 

[TheZebraKilledDarwin]

Always nice to see when ppl discover the impact of improved acoustics.
Never change a good sounding setup you are satisfied with, but by looking at your waterfall and just in case you might already have noticed that certain kicks or bass notes are tending to stick out, while other mixes have no problems:

View attachment 424817

In that case you might try to get the 96 Hz peak down, so that it suits into the falling slope from the 75 region and does not stick that much out:
Peaks of that size usually are no problem at all, but if they coincide with ringing, it means that frequency is not only louder than the neighbouring ones, but it also stays in the room for much, much longer and therefore starts to totally dominate, if it is triggered.

Especially the 70-120 bass region is very prone to that effect in living rooms. Untrained ears often confuse these resonances with a "strong kick bass", but once you learn how your room sounds, you might start to notice, how certain notes or sounds sometimes start to dominate everything. How well a mix is perceived, then simply depends how strongly this resonance is triggered, instead of hearing the real relationships.

 

[Mnyb]

I have taken the 96hz down if you see the correction curves i snapped from my ROON setup further up in the tread

 

[TheZebraKilledDarwin]

I have taken the 96hz down if you see the correction curves i snapped from my ROON setup further up in the tread

Sorry I misunderstood I thought the waterfall measurement was after correction.