It's not about opinions or what suits me or anyone else. It's about the scientific, objective, undisputable fact that a few millivolt of power cycle noise is completely harmless.
How's that for science?
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How's that for science?
ICIETDIYEUR
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It is you who affirm it: it does not determine that it is true, otherwise prove it
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What you have just written is your own interpretation, it is absolutely not what I wrote and explained: do not distort my words to give the illusion to the readers that you are right, it does not work, it is clumsy and useless.
Then can you please spell out what specifically you are asking @Ropeburn to prove?
By the way, it would also help if you included the relevant part of the message you are responding to (like I am doing here) so we have some idea of who and what you are responding to...
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Hi Juif.
I will try to be as explicit as possible.
Readers systematically mention that 'pop' noises are an annoyance that they do not tolerate when using a DAC for example which emits this 'pop' when switching from PCM to DSD conversion and vice versa for example.
I do not see why this apparatus must 'depart' from this justified consideration.
If you are not able to hear a noise at 30dB then too bad for you but this is certainly not the case for everyone and fortunately.
Therefore, I consider that this inconvenience is not tolerable, that's all.
I will try to be as explicit as possible.
Readers systematically mention that 'pop' noises are an annoyance that they do not tolerate when using a DAC for example which emits this 'pop' when switching from PCM to DSD conversion and vice versa for example.
I do not see why this apparatus must 'depart' from this justified consideration.
If you are not able to hear a noise at 30dB then too bad for you but this is certainly not the case for everyone and fortunately.
Therefore, I consider that this inconvenience is not tolerable, that's all.
Fair enough, I recognize that that is your opinion.
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This is not my simple opinion since it is shared by many readers, if not almost all of them (at least unanimously).
I live in a place surrounded by 6000m2 of woods and I have no neighbors.
The ambient noise in my home is much less than 30dB.
My PC reaches this noise level with its ventilation when it is in 'intensive' use and I would like to be able to limit it further so that I can only hear ambient noise but this would require passive cooling which is not possible in terms of 'space' if I want to keep the minimalist size design of the latter so I deal with it although I wish I could have done otherwise.
So I'm waiting for a more powerful processor with a smaller engraving finesse and less heat release to be available to achieve this: this is called progress
I live in a place surrounded by 6000m2 of woods and I have no neighbors.
The ambient noise in my home is much less than 30dB.
My PC reaches this noise level with its ventilation when it is in 'intensive' use and I would like to be able to limit it further so that I can only hear ambient noise but this would require passive cooling which is not possible in terms of 'space' if I want to keep the minimalist size design of the latter so I deal with it although I wish I could have done otherwise.
So I'm waiting for a more powerful processor with a smaller engraving finesse and less heat release to be available to achieve this: this is called progress
It is still a subjective opinion.
So yes, you might hear the pop when you turn on/off your gear. Fortunately it won't affect the noise level when actually playing music.
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Beyond the subjectivity of the comments: when they are unanimous then I think that the manufacturer must take it into account since it will influence its sales very objectively
1) in this case they aren't unanimous, and 2) the manufacturer would be wise to take it into account, but there is nothing (besides you) that says that they must.Beyond the subjectivity of the comments: when they are unanimous then I think that the manufacturer must take it into account since it will influence its sales very objectively
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I understand the concern that you don’t want anything to pop ever. But there is a big difference between dacs doing it between music tracks that could happen often each hour during listening, and a pop from powering off an amp at the end of a day
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We didn't. That's why we are challenging you. You made a claim, a hypothesis if you will, that we are rebutting pretty effectively.
And people use turntables with all the pops during the music... Go figure.
Sure. The question is how much it actually matters.
Yes, better (actually no "better", just different) only at popping. Some care about that, some don't at all, I'm on the latter group personally for example. So for me, no popping is no better than popping. That's why it's subjective, as Julf said.
Edit: But on second thought, for me it's better if it pops, because then I know the amp is definitely turned off.
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