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How to set up high pass filter via pc

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Huh it's hard for me even to swallow such price and I can't actually recommend it for that reason.

Edit: and they lower only 50$ if you don't want mic (UMIK-1).
 
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Huh it's hard for me even to swallow such price and I can't actually recommend it for that reason.

Edit: and they lower only 50$ if you don't want mic (UMIK-1).
Yes it’s even worse in Europe - 1600£
 

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Yes it’s even worse in Europe - 1600£
That even gets it to mid range AVR territory regarding price at least. I won't even comment about that anymore.
Edit: actually Flex version now sounds like a bargain and without Dirac Live (you always can reconsider and wait for bass menagement implementation update) as you will be just fine with REW and hand PEQ if you ask me (you might cook convolution [kernel] in the end if you really wish and such things make you happy).
 
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That even gets it to mid range AVR territory regarding price at least. I won't even comment about that anymore.
Edit: actually Flex version now sounds like a bargain and without Dirac Live (you always can reconsider and wait for bass menagement implementation update) as you will be just fine with REW and hand PEQ if you ask me (you might cook convolution [kernel] in the end if you really wish and such things make you happy).
yeah but any streamer is 500-600£ and I think I will want that. I'm not necessarily budget constrained per se, but at this stage it's rather "nice to have"
but yeah it's actually 1700£ just asked. RIdiculous
 
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Ok After days of researching and equipped with new knowledge gathered here I can confidently say there's NO way to set up programmatic crossover directing sound to 2 separate outputs (like analog and digital) on PC. Even if you could you would have an issue with synchronising 2 separate DACS as they have different latency.
You can do it with miniDSP Flex though by outputting 2 analogs . miniDSP SHD can output 2 digital signals to 2 separate DACS but that leaves you with synchronisation headache. MiniDSP SHD Studio have only 2 digital outputs , and no analogs so by design you are forced to synchronise DACs. Bizzarre
Mainboard DAC and passing signal through SVS is giving me bad sound (hard to describe but I'm not as awed whilst listening to it vs USB)

I have strength to install xonar now and will see if mainboard is the issue or SVS (after spending about 20hrs messing with current setup)
 
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The external (discontinued but still available) xonar U7 II and miniDSP 2x4HD I’ve used for years just work fine on a PC. Not sure what exactly you’re doing… But, why not just disable the DSP settings on the SVS or put it on its most basic, least equalized settings and do all the EQ work on the PC (if using a MCH DAC with JRiver) or directly via external DAC DSP device (if using something like miniDSP).
 
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The external (discontinued but still available) xonar U7 II and miniDSP 2x4HD I’ve used for years just work fine on a PC. Not sure what exactly you’re doing… But, why not just disable the DSP settings on the SVS or put it on its most basic, least equalized settings and do all the EQ work on the PC (if using a MCH DAC with JRiver) or directly via external DAC DSP device (if using something like miniDSP).
So the idea I had in my head was that “I have very good dac in Hegel and don’t want to replace it with mainboards DAC”. The highest sound resolution is also via USB so wanted to keep that .

Having analog output at source means (in my head) that I need dedicated and good DAC rather than stock on.

That means I have to buy dac and a good one

I've done just that and here are the results (2.1 via 4 channels from mainboard jack-RCA)
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Legend : orange after EQ, green before EQ
 

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So the idea I had in my head was that “I have very good dac in Hegel and don’t want to replace it with mainboards DAC”. The highest sound resolution is also via USB so wanted to keep that .

Having analog output at source means (in my head) that I need dedicated and good DAC rather than stock on.

That means I have to buy dac and a good one

I've done just that and here are the results (2.1 via 4 channels from mainboard jack-RCA)
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Legend : orange after EQ, green before EQ

I would prefer to see raw FR measurements of each individual driver vs their aligned sum (main + sub) together with the phase curves.

Anyway, IMO, there's really nothing to lose by adding a miniDSP flex in your already existing setup. Loss of quality is very likely nothing more than an unfounded fear when the benefit is potentially better sub+mains integration.
 
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yes I'm well aware I need flex or SHD - leaning towards the latter as I also want streamer and hunting for bargain atm.

However based on spec I'm reading flex is better DAC
 
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Do I need balances or unbalanced version ? I’m confused what’s the difference
 

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Do I need balances or unbalanced version ? I’m confused what’s the difference

Just look at the inputs of the devices you want to plug into. If the SVS has balanced inputs (might have both), you can use balanced. The Hegel seems to have both so either way will work. Balanced cables may be beneficial for those running longer runs of cable which is particularly not necessary for many home applications. I currently use mostly unbalanced cabling... any kind of noise and hum issues I've been able to solve by avoiding ground loop issues and using other filtering devices when necessary e.g. Hum x and Topping HS01
 
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Do you guys know some "cheap" streamer? Maybe I could mix it with miniDSP 2x4 (200£) and save big bucks rather than buying miniDSP SHD (1400£)
I struggle to see whats the difference between flex and 2x4
 

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Do you guys know some "cheap" streamer? Maybe I could mix it with miniDSP 2x4 (200£) and save big bucks rather than buying miniDSP SHD (1400£)
I struggle to see whats the difference between flex and 2x4
WiiM Mini Toslink out to Flex.
Difrence between Flex and 2x4 is in performance, BT...
 
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WiiM Mini Toslink out to Flex.
Difrence between Flex and 2x4 is in performance, BT...
apologies , performance of what? They both have 400mhz processor AFAIK

Looks to me the only difference is the screen
 
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Thanks, that wiim is like 70 quid , I’d save a grand if I went with wiim mini+ 2x4 combo rather than SHD
Would do exactly the same

Edit: ok reading flex has better DAC
So it’s 780£ for flex + wiim mini vs 1400£ for SHD
Will pull the trigger in the evening I think
 
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Thanks, that wiim is like 70 quid , I’d save a grand if I went with wiim mini+ 2x4 combo rather than SHD
Would do exactly the same

Edit: ok reading flex has better DAC
So it’s 780£ for flex + wiim mini vs 1400£ for SHD
Will pull the trigger in the evening I think
You can get away with base unbalanced Flex that's 475$/€, you already have mic and WiiM is cheap enough that you don't really care much about it and works transparent as pass trough Toslink. You don't really need Dirac Live and even if you think you do wait for the update with bass menagement and see how that plays out. Who knows maybe you will be able to catch license for it on discount later on.
 

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Ok After days of researching and equipped with new knowledge gathered here I can confidently say there's NO way to set up programmatic crossover directing sound to 2 separate outputs (like analog and digital) on PC. Even if you could you would have an issue with synchronising 2 separate DACS as they have different latency.
You can do it with miniDSP Flex though by outputting 2 analogs . miniDSP SHD can output 2 digital signals to 2 separate DACS but that leaves you with synchronisation headache. MiniDSP SHD Studio have only 2 digital outputs , and no analogs so by design you are forced to synchronise DACs. Bizzarre
Mainboard DAC and passing signal through SVS is giving me bad sound (hard to describe but I'm not as awed whilst listening to it vs USB)

I have strength to install xonar now and will see if mainboard is the issue or SVS (after spending about 20hrs messing with current setup)
If you're still interested in experimenting with your built-in soundcard, here's a Reddit guide I've followed successfully with Equalizer APO and onboard soundcards (or interfaces like the RME UCX II that I have currently.) If you set Windows sound to 5.1 mode, it activates all 6 output channels on the soundcard, and you use Equalizer APO to downmix all channels to "stereo" and can set crossovers/PEQ/delays per channel. Once set up, you can send a high-passed output via the LR jack to your Hegel inputs and a low-passed output via the C/Sub or RL/RR jack to your SVS.
 
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If you're still interested in experimenting with your built-in soundcard, here's a Reddit guide I've followed successfully with Equalizer APO and onboard soundcards (or interfaces like the RME UCX II that I have currently.) If you set Windows sound to 5.1 mode, it activates all 6 output channels on the soundcard, and you use Equalizer APO to downmix all channels to "stereo" and can set crossovers/PEQ/delays per channel. Once set up, you can send a high-passed output via the LR jack to your Hegel inputs and a low-passed output via the C/Sub or RL/RR jack to your SVS.
I've done that and it's pretty basic. As said previously the trick is to send sound to different outputs - analog and digital together and I don't think it's possible on PC
 
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thanks everyone , lets see how much it takes to ship to europe
 
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