It's not so much that I want to avoid them as I don't own any Apple devices. The last time I looked into it you had to have an Apple TV device hooked up to your AVR to get Atmos music from Apple Music via an AVR to surround sound system. I picked up Apple Music (free month) on my Android phone. The spacial sound isn't that impressive, IMHO, over headphones. I'd like to try it over my 5.1 system, but I'm not sure if it's worth buying a whole $150 Apple TV device that I'd have no other use for just to try it out. I guess if that's the only way to do it I can. If I don't like it I can just sell it or something, but I was hoping there was a way to do it from my phone or something.