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How much are you willing and able to spend on speakers?
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I want to point out to people that this poll is not meant to be a "pissing contest" nor a show of "wealth," as I am getting that feeling of accusation by some posts here.
I am genuinely interested in how much people are willing to drop on their end game speakers, I've been on the upgrade path for years and years, started off with a Yamaha mini stereo set up at the age of 17, it sounded amazing, until I heard better or wanted what I thought was "better." Over the years, I must had lost thousands on this stupid upgrade path.
I'm at a point where I already dropped the big bucks on a pair of speaker thinking it's the final end game, I did that after I learn about the Perlisten S7t Limited Edition, but I didn't think I could drop that kind of money for the Limited Edition, now I have some FOMO. Maybe I should of just done it?
Anyway, this also serves manufacturers and dealers a favor as market research.
I am genuinely interested in how much people are willing to drop on their end game speakers, I've been on the upgrade path for years and years, started off with a Yamaha mini stereo set up at the age of 17, it sounded amazing, until I heard better or wanted what I thought was "better." Over the years, I must had lost thousands on this stupid upgrade path.
I'm at a point where I already dropped the big bucks on a pair of speaker thinking it's the final end game, I did that after I learn about the Perlisten S7t Limited Edition, but I didn't think I could drop that kind of money for the Limited Edition, now I have some FOMO. Maybe I should of just done it?
Anyway, this also serves manufacturers and dealers a favor as market research.
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I understand spending more for "peripheral gains", such as style, or brand fanboyism, FOMO, etc. We all only live once and money means nothing "six feet under".
But the older I get, the less "material" I become. So I'm happy with what I have, and will probably buy anything else only if something should fail. Maybe it's just me.
So, if it will make you happier, sure, go for it.
But the older I get, the less "material" I become. So I'm happy with what I have, and will probably buy anything else only if something should fail. Maybe it's just me.
So, if it will make you happier, sure, go for it.
FWIW, if you shop smartly, I think you will be hard pressed to find much significant improvement over what can be had around 5K (plus a good Sub or two). To me, I don't need what can be had beyond that 10-15K bracket, assuming I could afford it. But I do know what can be achieved, especially in Fit&Finish if one is able to spend a little more.
I found one pair of Speakers priced at 60K that made me wonder.
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I don't usually think of the algorithm derived Atmos mixes available on some streaming services as don't have Atmos setups (speaker wise mostly, hardware in some cases)Yes, it does. Having the best is always more costly than the mediocre.
Seriously? You really should do your homework before posting.
There's thousands and thousand of discrete multich recordings, I personally have around 500 in my library
Apple, Amazon, Tidal, and Youtube stream multich.
The good new is that so many have already been reissued on BluRay in fully discreet 24/192 high resolution remasters with many more promised to come almost on a month basis.
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Neither do I and I wasn't referring to any of that.
Streamed multich today is about the same as heavily compressed 2ch flac was a bunch of years back.
It's good enough for reviewing but not serious listening.
Thankfully algorithm derived Atmos is in a small minority and tons of multich is available on DVD-A, BluRay, SACD
Maybe I haven't been shopping for a while
. What do you look to for streamed multich? Disc is the better way in any case.
?? I use Apple, they have by far the largest Atmos library and some straight 5.1 labeled as Dolby Surround.
But as you say disc is by far the best.
I'll only use Streaming to check out a new release.
I really don't know anything about algorithm derived Atmos, I think that mainly goes in with pop, rap, hippy hop.
You won't get any of that with quality masters from like Steven Wilson, Bob Clearmountain, Andy Jackson, etc, etc, etc.
Yeah haven't considered applish stuff since my early version ipod and issues using their software on pc platforms....?? I use Apple, they have by far the largest Atmos library and some straight 5.1 labeled as Dolby Surround.
But as you say disc is by far the best.
I'll only use Streaming to check out a new release.
I really don't know anything about algorithm derived Atmos, I think that mainly goes in with pop, rap, hippy hop.
You won't get any of that with quality masters from like Steven Wilson, Bob Clearmountain, Andy Jackson, etc, etc, etc.
Steven Wilson....can we clone him?
Better not to answer, as you obviously have no idea.
From your lips to Gods ear.Steven Wilson....can we clone him?
Seriously, Steven has a huge, well deserved reputation as both a performer and mastering engineer but there are lots
of really great multich engineers out there. Hell Alan Parsons did Pink Floyds Dark Side Quad mix in early 1972 and who knows more
about both sides of the console then Alan.
GMTAFrom your lips to Gods ear.
Seriously, Steven has a huge, well deserved reputation as both a performer and mastering engineer but there are lots
of really great multich engineers out there. Hell Alan Parsons did Pink Floyds Dark Side Quad mix in early 1972 and who knows more
about both sides of the console then Alan.
NO-NONE, it just trys to fake it's way thru..
Some minorly good, some stinks.
We're not discussing upmixing here.
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That's what I thought, unless there is some unknown AI algorithm available that can do that, as a trained EE and former software engineer myself, I know it simply is physically impossible to take a 2 channel track and upsample it in real time into discrete multi-channel, at least half way decent.
Correct. There are some that do create a somewhat pleasing effect depending on your subjective opinion.
If you listen to good discrete multich a lot of the time, plain 2ch can become somewhat boring for many of us, it does for me.
I use either Dolby Surround or Auro 3D that are included in my Denon AVR to enhance the soundstage and immersive experience
There have been a few others over the years the do a reasonable job also.
But you can't create a silk purse from a sows ear. LOL
OTOH it's not hard in that vocals are generally relegated to a centered mix between L/R Just not much of an issue especially as many recordings do not require an actual stage
I spent a little under 10k for a used pair of dynaudio confidence C4s in deep gloss rosewood, about a decade ago. I think the most expensive thing I have ever bought that didnt have wheels or a foundation. Really beautiful construction, the nicest furniture pieces In my house.
6ft tall, super glossy, in the middle of my middle class living room, MSRP of 22k, almost nobody really took notice of them or said anything when visiting. Most people don't really care about this sort of thing, the only people you can possibly impress with a fancy stereo are "audiophiles" over around 65.......0.0000001% of the population.
I don't think I would spend that much on a pair of speakers any more. KH150s and a pair of subs is great. I dont think we should demonize quality of construction, place of origin, company heritage, and other similar desirable traits.
6ft tall, super glossy, in the middle of my middle class living room, MSRP of 22k, almost nobody really took notice of them or said anything when visiting. Most people don't really care about this sort of thing, the only people you can possibly impress with a fancy stereo are "audiophiles" over around 65.......0.0000001% of the population.
I don't think I would spend that much on a pair of speakers any more. KH150s and a pair of subs is great. I dont think we should demonize quality of construction, place of origin, company heritage, and other similar desirable traits.
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My most recent speaker purchase was a whopping 138 Euro per pair (new; regular price, but raised a while after) pretty exactly 4 years ago. And my most expensive speaker purchase so far was 900 DM per pair (new, slightly discounted) not quite 24 years ago. So not willing to spend much on loudspeakers - foremost due to being primarily a headphone listener.
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