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OOOPS!I guess this is a typo, it's probably 85-86dB, right?
OOOPS!I guess this is a typo, it's probably 85-86dB, right?
Thanks, my experience has been identical. The Auro upmixer in my Marantz has the same tweaking controls available and finding the right setting for a particular recording can be a PITA, but I do find it mostly worth the effort. On occasion I've even found the Dolby and DTS mixers to work well for casual listening, but if your sitting in the MLP the Auro retains the best frontal image while adding a nice immersive effect.I have much enjoyed Lexicon's Logic 7 in years past, but it has changed, and I no longer have equipment with it. I am currently able to find satisfaction with the Auro 3D upmixer in my SDP-75. It can be adjusted in "room size" (time domain) and in amplitude of enhancement. No one setting suits all recordings but it is rare that stereo does not benefit from some amount of added envelopment. As always, this is me in my room.
I just clicked the "report" button mistakenly thinking it was a link... sorry! PatIf you want a summary of the hazards of sighted listening for evaluation, here it is.
And if you are into single-ended triode amps high sensitivity, and high impedance, are essential
Good Gawsh! And I thought my speaker addiction was out of control with a mere 5 speakers to play with!
A pair of vintage Canadian Mirage SM-4 two way bookshelves followed me home from the op-shop the other day ($4pr). Yes, they need the woogers* re-rolling, but could you have left them there in good conscience? I didn't think so.
*intentional misspelling.
Up to a point, and for many applications, of course one can trade off power and sensitivity. In small rooms the amount of sound power needed is modest. In large venues it can be enormous, so sensitivity is important for two reasons - keeping amplifier power needs reasonable, and keeping loudspeaker voice coils cool. Size is not much of a problem, so high sensitivity works.
My Revel Salon2s have low sensitivity (85 - 86 dB) and low impedance (4 ohms) so for cinema sound levels - which are almost never used - I need about 800 watts at 4 ohms. These days this is easily achieved in stand-alone amps. However, there are comparably good sounding speakers with much reduced power demands, so for domestic needs I would say that sensitivity is not a major factor. But budgets have an influence on one's perspective.
And if you are into single-ended triode amps high sensitivity, and high impedance, are essential
People often ask how much power they need and, apparently, I don't need as much as I thought.
- Rich
1) Joints still intact. Know what you mean. Good advice.Don't let a couple comments get your nose out of joint, I owned La Scala's for 32 years and never would have sold them if they would have fit in my retirement digs. Incredible speakers that do so many things right once you get used to them it's hard to live with anything else. I'm sure your aware of Stereophiles review of them in 2006, Sam fell in love.
http://www.soundhifi.com/klipsch/sam.htm
The Klipsch sound has been the recent rage at Stereophile in general so many preconceptions are changing. We have many horn lovers here, including a few M2 owners and other JBL horns.
Don't know anything about your room but have you tried getting them out of the corners and well into the room? Yes corner placement will help the somewhat weak bass (we both use subs for that) but I kept mine about 5' out and 2+' off the side walls. When aimed at the MLP the imaging was better than anything I've heard. Just something you might try?
Like has been said, I know of no speaker type that doesn't have it's weaknesses, you buy your ticket and take your ride.
My wife is a professional musician and conductor.
She has absolutely zero interest in hifi sound quality.
When she is researching a piece for a new performance she likes to listen to other interpretations. it used to be buying LPs then CDs but now she can search the internet and listen on her laptop speakers. All the rubato, tempo choices and so forth are easily heard on a youtube video via laptop speakers.
Yes instrumental timbre isn't anywhere near, but that is of little interest to her for planning her own work, nor is the narrow frequency bandwidth.
I also can easily hear what she is looking into on her laptop.
For me enjoying a complete work in the music room accurate timbre and a full frequency range make a big difference, for a musician listening to another's performance not so much IME.
I know a lot of musicians through my wife and not one of them has the least interest in hifi.
That may be some musician's point of view (though I doubt it is many) since that quotation is typical of hifi enthusasts sort of way of speaking, not that of any of the many musicians I know.Yep. Typical. A general explanation I heard from acoustic musicians: “None of the systems sound like live music to me, so why chase the illusory perfection?”
In my personal experience they prefer super bikes.Yep. Typical. A general explanation I heard from acoustic musicians: “None of the systems sound like live music to me, so why chase the illusory perfection?”
This is similar to anecdotes about jet fighter pilots surprisingly preferring “boring” cars: even the fastest and best-handling land vehicles can’t approach the sheer dynamic brutality of their air vehicles.
In my personal experience they prefer super bikes.
In my personal experience they prefer super bikes.
The Three keys to life,And fast women?
In Australian slang these two terms are interchangeable.
That may be some musician's point of view (though I doubt it is many) since that quotation is typical of hifi enthusasts sort of way of speaking, not that of any of the many musicians I know.
The ones I know are not equipment fans but music fans and, frankly, fancy kit is not necessary to enjoy music though it does add a small benefit for those who are into it - like me.
Yep. Typical. A general explanation I heard from acoustic musicians: “None of the systems sound like live music to me, so why chase the illusory perfection?”
This is similar to anecdotes about jet fighter pilots surprisingly preferring “boring” cars: even the fastest and best-handling land vehicles can’t approach the sheer dynamic brutality of their air vehicles.
That may be some musician's point of view (though I doubt it is many) since that quotation is typical of hifi enthusasts sort of way of speaking, not that of any of the many musicians I know.