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How do you organize your classical music physical media, e.g. alphabetical?

I gotta do some sorting of CDs and LPs. What sort order to use? If an album has the music of only one composer on it then I can use the composer name for it.

But what about something like this? It's a common problem so what do you do? It's about sort order for physical media. What do you do or if you have experience organizing an institutional collection.

Karlheinz Stockhausen / Krzysztof Penderecki / Earle Brown / Henri Pousseur, Rome Symphony Orchestra / Bruno Maderna – The New Music​


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I'd file it as "Modern". If I had this disc, I'd file it with other 20th/21st century composers, though more like Messiaen than Richard Strauss. My "Modern" selections on my DAP includes the Columbia-Princeton Electronic music collection along with Schoenberg and Ives.
 
I'd file it as "Modern". If I had this disc, I'd file it with other 20th/21st century composers, though more like Messiaen than Richard Strauss. My "Modern" selections on my DAP includes the Columbia-Princeton Electronic music collection along with Schoenberg and Ives.
Modern, Maderna.
 
I gotta do some sorting of CDs and LPs. What sort order to use? If an album has the music of only one composer on it then I can use the composer name for it.

But what about something like this? It's a common problem so what do you do? It's about sort order for physical media. What do you do or if you have experience organizing an institutional collection.

Karlheinz Stockhausen / Krzysztof Penderecki / Earle Brown / Henri Pousseur, Rome Symphony Orchestra / Bruno Maderna – The New Music​


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I'd put that in alphabetical order under N in compilations, after the composers and artists sections.
 
This is my music folder. The reason some folders are "BzBB" or "CzCC" is for miscellaneous composers where I don't have large collections, e.g. Bela Bartok, Balakirev, Bizet, Byrd, and so on. If I created subfolders for each of them, the main folder would be really cluttered. And it's "BzBB" instead of "B" so that it appears at the end of all the composers whose names start with "B".

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With some composers, I have very large collections. For example this is my Bach folder, which is further subdivided into composition type:

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Go into "Cantatas" and you can find more subfolders for complete cantata sets or individual discs:

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As I write this, I've long been aware of the virtual explosion of 20th century classical music from the time period when I first catalogued the compositions/albums that I had, and realized that I hadn't even scratched the surface of the body of 20th century classical compositions, and the similar explosion in the number of noted classical composers.

One way to visualize this explosion is to first look at the number of pre-20th century composers (perhaps a list of 200-300 names) that I posted earlier in #10, and then begin to scroll down the list of 20th century composers. That latter list is over 3300+ names in length(...!...).

I don't know about you, but I have to say that I only own a very small fraction of that list of 3300 (i.e., at least one composition by each named composer), perhaps 0.5 percent of the composers listed, or less.

This becomes a problem when trying to catalog physical discs on the shelf. What I've done is to group this 20th century music by approximate date of composition, and within that group, the approximate schools of style (e.g., impressionistic, neoclassical, atonal/12-tone, and post-romantic, etc., etc.). This is the only way that I see to arrange discs on a shelf.

But having an app-based player that can sort instantly (#16) in many different formats, by genre (classical, of course, for this thread), date of album, date of composition (if I wanted to fill in those DB fields), performing artist(s), makes the job of sorting trivial.

I find that this classical body of music is so overwhelming in size (more than I could listen to in the remainder of my life) that I've stopped trying to systematically fill in my library for the different musical periods and schools of compositional style, and just began to follow my nose, so to speak.

One other point I should mention:

As I upgraded the fidelity of my playback setup over time, my tastes in music began to expand. In particular, I found that as I systematically reduced the phase growth in each of my loudspeakers, my interest in 19th and 20th century classical music began to come into its own. While I always enjoyed the music of these time periods in live performance (as a music major at University), I found that recordings of these musical periods would immediately lose my attention.

But once I found the sensitivity of my listening preferences to phase distortion (strangely), I found that I could now put on hi-fi albums of 19th-20th century orchestral recordings, and then couldn't walk away or stop listening until the entire album was finished.

Perhaps you have experienced this sort of phenomenon in your listening preferences, but I was not aware of this phenomenon until it actually occurred in my listening room for the first time.

YMMV.

Chris
 
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In my Foobar, I can use some different schemes for viewing my library :
Either Album, added date, and so on.
But my first interest is the sort by work :
I first use the tag %work% (name or Opus), e.g. "symphonie N°7", extracted from Title, with FB or Mp3tag macros.
Tagging took some time...
Then I include composer, artist, conductor, band, year in this "work".
 

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In my Foobar, I can use some different schemes for viewing my library :
Either Album, added date, and so on.
But my first interest is the sort by work :
I first use the tag %work% (name or Opus), e.g. "symphonie N°7", extracted from Title, with FB or Mp3tag macros.
Tagging took some time...
Then I include composer, artist, conductor, band, year in this "work".
foobar comes handy cause it has infinite ways to view.

Some:

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Yes, FB can do everything.
But it needs some work to do what you want.
My pic is just an example, as I like to compare different artists in a same given work.
Regards,
 
To answer a part of the question "How do you organize your classical music [...], but inside a dematerialized catalog, particularly on the sorting/search options,
I am not sure you noticed the inferior-left menu pic on my #27 post : no special organization, as I can sort my HDD by any option in this menu.
Regards,
 
For the worse maybe, I DON'T organize my physical Classical music media, I own many and DO still buy CDs and SACDs, but I immediately rip those digital media to lossless computer files, correct the metadata tags, and rely on my music player's, (Foobar2000), browsing capability to let me browse and find the music I want to listen to.

Sadly my CDs then lie around in random heaps :confused:
 
Exactly what I meant ;-)

Have you added some (not so) personal tags ?
I added the %work% (=opus) tag, e.g. to compare different artists on a same opus.

Same here, my CDs are scattered in different places, drawers, shelves and so on...

Regards,
 
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