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How can I rip the Eagles - Hell Freezes Over DVD to lossless audio tracks?

simbloke

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This thread reminded me that a have a DVD-A disk that my dad bought for me many years ago without knowing what it was. The back of the case says DVD-A 5.1, DTS 5.1, PCM 2.0.
When I try DVD Audio Extractor it shows me the 10 tracks and allows me to choose the output format, so I choose FLAC and it works fine. The files are 96/24.
I then notice there an option to save the files as they are, so I try that and I get 10 MLP files. ffmpeg identifies these files are 96/24 5.1.
I'm left wondering how they went from 5.1 to 2.0, did the software do it's own down-mix or are there some hints in MLP as to what should be done.
 
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I'm left wondering how they went from 5.1 to 2.0, did the software do it's own down-mix or are there some hints in MLP as to what should be done.

I'm pretty sure, that I'm not understanding your question correctly :cool:
But if you mean, that you have used DVDAE to extract to FLAC-files with only stereo content, then I guess there are two possibilities:
1: You chose the PCM title in DVDAE at the first page of the wizard?
2: You chose the DTS 5.1 title of the DVD, but then in the next page of the wizard you choose to save as stereo FLAC?

In case 2, I would say, that DVDAE does the downmix in software as outlined here: Reddit: How do I convert 5.1 audio to Stereo while preserving original volume and balance?
 

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Actually I think you understand my not very well put point.

Despite what is suggested on the DVD case I only see one title in DVDAE, I did choose that and selected stereo FLAC on the later screen. So it does seem like it would be down-mixed by DVDAE.

When looking at the DVD as 'files' I see the two large files containing the audio data add up to about the same size as the extracted MLP files, which makes sense. I don't see anything that suggests there are separate PCM files on the DVD.
 

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Okay, not sure about the MLP files.
But in DVDAE when looking at the Eagles DVD, I get three different options for audio from the disc: LPC, AC3 and DTS.
You only get DTS?

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I see just one title and one option called "MLP (96kHz 24bit 6Ch)".

I then noticed the files in the VIDEO_TS folder amounted to about 2GB so I copied them to my PC, renamed the extensions to be lower case, and asked DVDAE to look at that folder. I then saw LPCM and DTS versions. I then told DVDAE to extract the LPCM to FLAC.

So it looks like this DVD at least puts extra audio in the VIDEO_TS folder and DVDAE doesn't expect that.
 

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If you still having problems I can put together a step by step guide to extract using DVD Decrypter. I did this dozens of times already. Best one was the Amy Winehouse live DVD not available on CD.
 

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I see just one title and one option called "MLP (96kHz 24bit 6Ch)".

I then noticed the files in the VIDEO_TS folder amounted to about 2GB so I copied them to my PC, renamed the extensions to be lower case, and asked DVDAE to look at that folder. I then saw LPCM and DTS versions. I then told DVDAE to extract the LPCM to FLAC.

So it looks like this DVD at least puts extra audio in the VIDEO_TS folder and DVDAE doesn't expect that.

I have two different usb DVD drives I use, If one drive has trouble with a disk I try the other. I have the best luck with an old Samsung, but every once in a while it has trouble and then I try an LG. I have seen one drive not read a disk and the other succeed more than a few times.
 
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If you still having problems I can put together a step by step guide to extract using DVD Decrypter. I did this dozens of times already. Best one was the Amy Winehouse live DVD not available on CD.
Thanks but I have managed to do this. Once I copied the files to my PC and told DVD AE to look in the VIDEO_TS folder then it was fine.
 
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