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High End Munich 2025 - May 15-18

Genelec is a higher quality level for sound reproduction than any competing product that man can make. In all SAM products there are hundreds of thousands of different sound structure modification possibilities to play their sounds in different ways, possibly even millions. Most people just don't understand much about frequencies other than knowing some well-known Hz: which most people can have in their memory as many as there are fingers in the palm of your hand. It's a shame if 24 karat gold were available, but appearance is like a brake on many minds. People lock their value charges into appearance and a loose sense of the products' abilities and possibilities.
 
Behrelec 37 said:
Genelec is a higher quality level for sound reproduction than any competing product that man can make. In all SAM products there are hundreds of thousands of different sound structure modification possibilities to play their sounds in different ways, possibly even millions. Most people just don't understand much about frequencies other than knowing some well-known Hz: which most people can have in their memory as many as there are fingers in the palm of your hand. It's a shame if 24 karat gold were available, but appearance is like a brake on many minds. People lock their value charges into appearance and a loose sense of the products' abilities and possibilities.
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I’d like to hear pair to see if I agree . :)
 
poopy said:
Impressive overall. Very clean bass. The guy doing the demo pointed me to the spot eq'ed with GLM. Could seat there for a while. The quality of the bass struck me most.

They are not as ugly as they seem to be on pictures. View attachment 451629
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Theoretically which sub would work with the 8381?
 
MattHooper

Hope you are truly honest with yourself as a person and read the depth of my writing very clearly into your mind.The Genelec sam product family does not have one style of playing evenly or right/wrong, but hundreds of thousands of different styles of bringing out the effect of recording playback. Have you truly grasped this idea in the adult understanding NOW ???I doubt it because too many people talk a lot but do not test reality and do tests to see how the sound behaves in the sam product families. An honest person seeks a challenge and takes on the challenge with genuine interest and not with a light attempt or scratching the surface.

I say this even more clearly in studios flat sound is the optimal measurement method for production, meaning the result of one measurement is often locked to your speakers, but in your home use to enjoy music you will probably have to find parameters so that the chord, tempo, melody, rhythm correspond to the concept of realism to copy as well as your ability to understand the relationship between realism and the reproduced sound is at war with each other.War mode comes when you learn to understand that you are lagging behind in your understanding, and badly. Genelec is definitely not a toy speaker manufacturer, but hard quality expertise to model realism especially convincingly. Bendings and modifications are an endless mirror world in front of you.
 
Behrelec 37 said:
Have you truly grasped this idea in the adult understanding NOW ???I
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Behrelec 37 said:
Genelec is a higher quality level for sound reproduction than any competing product that man can make
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:facepalm:
I think I find this constant Genelec advertising show just as unpleasant as answers from ChatGPT about speaker tuning.

Yes, Genelec builds good speakers, but so do other manufacturers of DSP controlled active studio monitors.
Genelec has no monopoly and no miracle weapons.
 
Pearljam5000 said:
Theoretically which sub would work with the 8381?
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Theoretically, any qualitatively suitable, active subwoofer that can be controlled via DSP with the appropriate cone area and the necessary level reserves.
In practice, however, you won't need one.
 
Behrelec 37 said:
MattHooper

Hope you are truly honest with yourself as a person and read the depth of my writing very clearly into your mind.The Genelec sam product family does not have one style of playing evenly or right/wrong, but hundreds of thousands of different styles of bringing out the effect of recording playback. Have you truly grasped this idea in the adult understanding NOW ???I doubt it because too many people talk a lot but do not test reality and do tests to see how the sound behaves in the sam product families. An honest person seeks a challenge and takes on the challenge with genuine interest and not with a light attempt or scratching the surface.

I say this even more clearly in studios flat sound is the optimal measurement method for production, meaning the result of one measurement is often locked to your speakers, but in your home use to enjoy music you will probably have to find parameters so that the chord, tempo, melody, rhythm correspond to the concept of realism to copy as well as your ability to understand the relationship between realism and the reproduced sound is at war with each other.War mode comes when you learn to understand that you are lagging behind in your understanding, and badly. Genelec is definitely not a toy speaker manufacturer, but hard quality expertise to model realism especially convincingly. Bendings and modifications are an endless mirror world in front of you.
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Wondering if I would get some mod’s reaction if I offered my unfiltered thoughts on this posting?!
Weil, …
 
Pearljam5000 said:
Theoretically which sub would work with the 8381?
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Isn't the lower box the subwoofer?
Or is that lower box a cardioid effect box?

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boxerfan88 said:
Isn't the lower box the subwoofer?
Or is that lower box a cardioid effect box?
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If I have understood correctly, you can choose between two operating modes: 'Continuous Directivity' and 'Complementary'.

While 'Continuous Directivity' stands for fixed crossover frequencies between the woofer (3) in the upper part of the cabinet and the woofers in the bass reflex cabinet (4), the calibration algorithm in Complementary mode selects an optimum crossover frequency between top and bottom depending on the room acoustics in order to achieve the smoothest possible transfer function at the listening position.

In both operating modes, however, the algorithm also searches for the optimum crossover frequency between the top woofer and the QMS (2), the square midrange arrangement within the sound guide.

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Pearljamm5000

Have you listened to these 8381a models many times?

I've listened to them about four times myself, and once at full volume. I don't think they need a subwoofer. But of course, if you want your stomach to really churn, that's a different matter.
 
Audionaut.

Many manufacturers make good, enjoyable speakers, until tests are conducted with many different music genres and the results are compared to each other. A too-short review of the tests does not tell much, but a broader survey needs to be done, from acoustic music to live production, and a comparative comparison with other models for electronic music, where the differences become clearer and Genelec shines.
 
Behrelec 37 said:
Pearljamm5000

Have you listened to these 8381a models many times?

I've listened to them about four times myself, and once at full volume. I don't think they need a subwoofer. But of course, if you want your stomach to really churn, that's a different matter.
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Unfortunately no
 
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Behrelec 37 said:
but a broader survey needs to be done, from acoustic music to live production, and a comparative comparison with other models for electronic music, where the differences become clearer and Genelec shines.
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This is nonsense. You are giving Genelec a bad name with such foolishness.
 
Purité Audio said:
Purifis but not their tweeter.View attachment 451161
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Those surrounds that seem to be a little bit popular on speaker cones these days look terrible. They look like the speaker is broken. Might have some BS purpose for using but it doesn’t do anything for the look IMHO. The usual speaker surrounds are a much better option every time.
 
Mort.

I really don't know what you mean by a stupid name. But I will say that the glm software enables an even more dense and intimate rhythm of already accurate playback, which many other manufacturers don't seem to be able to achieve yet. glm is a source of super abundance, tearing additional accuracy out of recordings when you start to get to know its secrets and edit them properly. Most people are too arrogant or too lazy to even understand that the secrets of a dsp-based monitor speaker are just scratches compared to what you have done to yourself with one measurement and are satisfied with that result. You have the golden key in your hands, but if you are satisfied with a mediocre result, which is not a good thing.Genelec's dsp can go much further than many people believe in terms of accuracy and structure, expressing the different characters of recordings in a perfect and believable way. As long as you don't settle for the first measurement result.Laziness is not a good way to proceed on this path, but rather a hindrance to the development of understanding.
 
Pearljam5000 said:
Yeah from what I understand it's always good to have a sub anyways so I was wondering which size you would need for this beast lol
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It's your room that determines how many subs and how large, not the main speaker. Even if they produce prodigious amounts of bass, all listening rooms will make it lumpy.
 
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