HifiMan Sundara + Qudelix K5

[Ole_S]

Hi guys

Some kind people inhere recommended Qudelix K5 for my HifiMan Sundara.
The setup is for both desktop + Bluetooth (receiver).

Any good/bad experiences with this setup?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards,
Ole_S

 

[IAtaman]

It turns out, it is your lucky day today! I was starting to lose hope after your 59th message on the same topic but hey, when there is a will, there is a way.

I happen to be listening to music with Sundara, and 5K is not too far away so I will test them for you. Yes, Sundara sounds as lovely as ever with 5K, and with EQ enabled, it gets as loud enough to cause pain with 12db more to spare.

 

[Ole_S]

It turns out, it is your lucky day today! I was starting to lose hope after your 59th message on the same topic but hey, when there is a will, there is a way.

I happen to be listening to music with Sundara, and 5K is not too far away so I will test them for you. Yes, Sundara sounds as lovely as ever with 5K, and with EQ enabled, it gets as loud enough to cause pain with 12db more to spare.

What an attitude?
I have not asked to you read all these messages? Agree?

But thanks anyway.

 

[Berwhale]

Q5K work fines with my HE-4XX (and HD 660S), i'm using an OKSC balanced 2.5mm cables (for both)... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B58ZMMFW

 

[Ole_S]

Q5K work fine with my HE-4XX (and HD 660S), i'm using an OKSC balanced 2.5mm cable (for both)... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B58ZMMFW

Hi,

Thank you.
I will take a look at the cable .

I just need to be complete sure here:
Which cable for Sundara?

3.5 - 2.5 mm
or
3.5 - 3.5 mm

Thank you.

 

[IAtaman]

What an attitude?
I have not asked to you read all these messages? Agree?

But thanks anyway.

You are most welcome.

 

[Berwhale]

Hi,

Thank you.
I will take a look at the cable .

It's a nice cable. Its fabric covered, quite flexible and feels 'premium' (despite its relatively low price) - I like the right angled plug as the cable hangs down when I clip the Q5K horizontally to a shirt or open hoody.

 

[Ole_S]

It's a nice cable. Its fabric covered, quite flexible and feels 'premium' (despite its relatively low price) - I like the right angled plug as the cable hangs down when I clip the Q5K horizontally to a shirt or open hoody.

Sounds great.

3.5 - 2.5 mm
or
3.5 - 3.5 mm

It may be 3.5mm-2.5mm.



Maybe the same cable can be bought inside Europa.
I prefer not paying the Taxed ;-)

 

[IAtaman]

Cable that comes with Sundara is fine. You don't need to buy another cable for Sundara. If you get hard to drive headphones later on, you can look into balanced 2.5mm cables then.

 

[Ole_S]

One person wrote this message:

Qudelix 5K only = 129 € for the total setup is what StaticV3 is trying to tell you.
It will also give you EQ possibities, have enough power and can be used as desktop as well (via USB) and can be used portable.
You will be lacking 2 separate boxes, display, power supplies. Your wallet will thank you.
You may want to buy a balanced cable for the Sundara (Pentaconn 2.5mm TRRS).
The Qudelix will be enough unless you want to remove the fillings from your teeth.

I guess for 15€ the money er well spend.
To the give the Qudelix K5 some xtra juice.

 

[Berwhale]

Sounds great.

3.5 - 2.5 mm
or
3.5 - 3.5 mm

It may be 3.5mm-2.5mm.



Maybe the same cable can be bought inside Europa.
I prefer not paying the Taxed ;-)

I have the 2.5mm balance to 2x 3.5mm cable for my HE-4XX. You should check the plugs that go into your Sundaras

Regarding Europa, just change the '.co.uk' to the European equivalent, e.g. for Spain...

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B0B58ZMMFW

 

[Ole_S]

I have the 2.5mm balance to 2x 3.5mm cable for my HE-4XX. You should check the plugs that go into your Sundaras

Regarding Europa, just change the '.co.uk' to the European equivalent, e.g. for Spain...

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B0B58ZMMFW

Do you agree with IAtaman?
Do I not need a balanced cable between Sundara Qudelix 5K?

Some people say yes. Some people say no. :-S

 

[Berwhale]

One person wrote this message:

Qudelix 5K only = 129 € for the total setup is what StaticV3 is trying to tell you.
It will also give you EQ possibities, have enough power and can be used as desktop as well (via USB) and can be used portable.
You will be lacking 2 separate boxes, display, power supplies. Your wallet will thank you.
You may want to buy a balanced cable for the Sundara (Pentaconn 2.5mm TRRS).
The Qudelix will be enough unless you want to remove the fillings from your teeth.

I guess for 15€ the money er well spend.
To the give the Qudelix K5 some xtra juice.

I was not a fan of the cable that came with the HE-4XX, but it worked fine. I also apply quite a lot of EQ to the HE-4XX (with negative pre-amp), so the extra power from the balanced connection was welcome. So, you don't *need* to buy another cable, but if you want try one, the one I linked to is a good one.

 

[Ole_S]

Sundara is fitted with a 3.5mm mini-jack plug at one end and two 3.5mm mini-jacks in the headphone. An adapter from 3.5mm to 6.3mm is also included.

 

[Berwhale]

Do you agree with IAtaman?
Do I not need a balanced cable between Sundara Qudelix 5K?

Some people say yes. Some people say no. :-S

No need to rush into another purchase. Try it with the stock cable, apply PEQ to your liking and see if it plays loud enough for you, if it doesn't then try the balanced cable.

 

[Ole_S]

I was not a fan of the cable that came with the HE-4XX, but it worked fine. I also apply quite a lot of EQ to the HE-4XX (with negative pre-amp), so the extra power from the balanced connection was welcome. So, you don't *need* to buy another cable, but if you want try one, the one I linked to is a good one.

Okay.
My Output level for my Sundara (EQ) is -7.5.
Therefore, it might be a good idea buying a balanced cable?

 

[Berwhale]

Okay.
My Output level for my Sundara (EQ) is -7.5.
Therefore, it might be a good idea buying a balanced cable?

Only if you can't get the Q5K loud enough with PEQ or you have issues with the stock cable (too long, too inflexible, plug sticks out from the Q5K too far, etc.)

 

[Ole_S]

HIFIMAN SUNDARA

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Can someone explain these numbers ?

 

[IAtaman]

When I said I will test it, I was not bullshitting - I have genuinely tested Sundara with Q5K using 3.5mm SE cable. It gets very loud even with EQ applied with phone at max and 12db more to go on Q5K volume control.

 

[Ole_S]

When I said I will test it, I was not bullshitting - I have genuinely tested Sundara with Q5K using 3.5mm SE cable. It gets very loud even with EQ applied with phone at max and Q5K volume control with 12db more to go.

Thank you for testing it.
Therefore, balanced cable may not be nessacary.

Thanks