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Hifiman Edition XS

I posted something relating to Edition XS in this thread, if anyone is interested
 
Created another thread since its topic was different, perhaps it is of interest as well
Really nice mod for the XS
 
TLDR: Do Edition XS aftermarket pads generally come with the mounting rings pre-installed?


Quick question regarding Edition XS aftermarket pads:

Lots of pads out there but had a basic question regarding mounting rings:

Some of the pads from various sellers have pictures of the pads but don't show the mounting area -- i.e., can't tell if they come with the mounting rings or not.

The more pads I look at, the more I think it's safe to assume they mostly all come with the rings pre-installed since there is rarely a separate mention of them and many pics do show the pads having the rings.

Is it generally true they come with pre-installed rings? I did do a quick search for separate EDXS mounting rings but didn't come up with much.
 
TLDR: Do Edition XS aftermarket pads generally come with the mounting rings pre-installed?


Quick question regarding Edition XS aftermarket pads:

Lots of pads out there but had a basic question regarding mounting rings:

Some of the pads from various sellers have pictures of the pads but don't show the mounting area -- i.e., can't tell if they come with the mounting rings or not.

The more pads I look at, the more I think it's safe to assume they mostly all come with the rings pre-installed since there is rarely a separate mention of them and many pics do show the pads having the rings.

Is it generally true they come with pre-installed rings? I did do a quick search for separate EDXS mounting rings but didn't come up with much.
Yes 98% of the time they will come with the ring affixed to the pads
Only 1 pair I ordered was a glue on and it was a clear mention, with the 3m butter paper on the adhesive side clearly depicted in pictures.

So don't worry, if you're choosing these pads, firstly they'd be mentioned for the lot of em, it'll say Xs, Arya, Ananda pads. Secondly, it's safe to assume they come with the rings.

Do share any links here, maybe I can confirm for you the same for each link.
 
Yes 98% of the time they will come with the ring affixed to the pads
Only 1 pair I ordered was a glue on and it was a clear mention, with the 3m butter paper on the adhesive side clearly depicted in pictures.

So don't worry, if you're choosing these pads, firstly they'd be mentioned for the lot of em, it'll say Xs, Arya, Ananda pads. Secondly, it's safe to assume they come with the rings.

Do share any links here, maybe I can confirm for you the same for each link.
Hi--Thanks for your kind response.

I did reach out to the seller on Amazon on this set below with the specific question as..."do they already have the mounting rings installed on them?" and the response, while pretty much the verbiage on the info for the pads... "align the pads with the appropriate brackets in the earcups"...I took that as, yeah, the rings are already on there.

The few reviews on the pads make no mention of any hassles with having to get rings so they're almost certainly already on there.

If you have any recommendations for U.S. or Canada-based pad vendors (Amazon, Ebay, etc.) feel free to post. Probably not looking at Dekoni at this point because of cost.

Thanks again!

 
Hi--Thanks for your kind response.

I did reach out to the seller on Amazon on this set below with the specific question as..."do they already have the mounting rings installed on them?" and the response, while pretty much the verbiage on the info for the pads... "align the pads with the appropriate brackets in the earcups"...I took that as, yeah, the rings are already on there.

The few reviews on the pads make no mention of any hassles with having to get rings so they're almost certainly already on there.

If you have any recommendations for U.S. or Canada-based pad vendors (Amazon, Ebay, etc.) feel free to post. Probably not looking at Dekoni at this point because of cost.

Thanks again!

Welcome Bob,

BTW, I'd actually recommend something from Ebay, for lesser price too, and Sheepskin I see on there - I myself have a couple of sheepskin ones all around. TBH, these pleather/faux leather ones don't last too long. All of mine have finally crusted off now for whatever cans that I had, yet sheepskin is standing the test of time.

So, if you can, skip that Amazon link, get one off ebay - I see there's Chinese sellers on there, but seems the cost may not be much for shipping. Pads themselves, I see many postings from US$18 or so to US$ 28 or so, and there's options for velvet/velour, fenestrated sheepskin (what I'd recommend) etc.:




Amazon and Dekoni etc look very steep for prices - I've grabbed multiple pads from AliExpress for example for half or 1/3rd prices, so...
 
Welcome Bob,

BTW, I'd actually recommend something from Ebay, for lesser price too, and Sheepskin I see on there - I myself have a couple of sheepskin ones all around. TBH, these pleather/faux leather ones don't last too long. All of mine have finally crusted off now for whatever cans that I had, yet sheepskin is standing the test of time.

So, if you can, skip that Amazon link, get one off ebay - I see there's Chinese sellers on there, but seems the cost may not be much for shipping. Pads themselves, I see many postings from US$18 or so to US$ 28 or so, and there's options for velvet/velour, fenestrated sheepskin (what I'd recommend) etc.:




Amazon and Dekoni etc look very steep for prices - I've grabbed multiple pads from AliExpress for example for half or 1/3rd prices, so...
Thanks, I'll check those out!
 
iv had mine about 2.5 years now and still drool when a song hits that subbass area
Created another thread since its topic was different, perhaps it is of interest as well
Really nice mod for the XS
also this is an awesome mod

i also do an overkill setup where i use my 500w PA amplifier to drive them since my audiobox GO is pathetic for power output and sounds meh on these, plus i already had the PA amp so instead of buying a new interface, i bought some resistors to make a couple L-Pad attenuators to lower power output without affecting sound. i only made these to lower my output to make a hiss that's present at all gain levels (including -inf), inaudible. works flawlessly


attached picture: i actually have my gain set much lower, im just too lazy to snap another picture :P
 

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Btw, there's a 'new' (1 month old?) Hifiman XV which supposedly is less bright, but in Canada it's $600, which is quite a bit more than the Edition XS, which I think were at $350cdn last week. 3-4 years ago, the XS were ~$700cdn. I wonder if $350cdn is the new bottom or if we'll see even greater price drop for the XS.


Reviews and measurements already up it seems;
https://unheardlab.com/2025/08/10/h...not-quite-the-xs-successor-but-in-a-good-way/
measurements comparisons from that review

That really seems to be the thing with Hifiman, the prices get slashed heavily a few years after a model is released, so buying 1 generation behind can save you massive $$. For myself, looking at those graphs and quickly skimming the XV review, seems like the XS is still relevant. "Does the new XV edge out the XS? Not necessarily. The Edition XS remains relevant, and even highly competitive, thanks to its different tuning and its current aggressive price of around $239 USD."

Haven't made the jump to XS (still sometimes listen to ancient 400i), but if it ever reaches ~$300cdn I might still grab a pair, though it would be a waste of $ given how often I now listen to headphones but oh well.. lol

Oh, apparently, according to AI: "The Hifiman Edition XS has been sold in Canada around the price of $269 CAD primarily through refurbished, open-box, or clearance sales rather than new stock at that price.". Missed that deal if true, pretty crazy how HFM prices for a headphone can go from 700 to 270! B-stock from HFM Canada is 320cad, might have hit 270... wow...
 
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The Hifiman Edition XS with a hard case are currently £250 on Amazon in the UK from Spartan Music (a highly reputable seller) which is a superb price. Mine were £350 new a few years ago (without a hard case but in a box lined with a black, silk-like material) and I love these things.

They didn't stop me also buying up some 400se (£70 new and mainly for gaming) and Deva Pro Bluetooth (£100 mint, open box, and the best fit of all three) straight from Amazon. They are all great cans which I occasionally EQ and are worthy of a place in my collection. They suit my large ears too.
 
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I went to an audio event in my country in the weekend as I wanted to check if it's worth to change my HE400SE to the XS, Ananda or Arya Stealth as those are within my price range.

I've got to try the XS, XV, Sundara, Ananda Nano, Ananda Unveiled, Arya Organic and the Susvara, all running with my choice of music, without EQ, out of FiiO KA15 with 3.5mm or 4.4mm output, whatever was available.

Out of those, the XS were the most comfortable to me. Felt almost like my Sennheiser HD700. At first, I've noticed some coloration in the treble, but I've got adjusted to it within minutes. I was impressed by the level of sub-bass without EQ, although I had to listen at a higher volume than usual due to the meeting conditions - which made the bass even louder relative to the mids.

Anando Nano was quite uncomfortable to me. Buying blind, I'd go for Ananda as so many people complain about the XS' comfort.
I liked the XV at first, but quickly decided I'd rather have more treble, it just works better for what I listen to.

Overall, XS, Ananda & Arya Organic sounded so close that I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite if they were at the same price.

Sundara sounded really good too IMO, most neutral out of those, with leaner bass.
I don't think the XS necessarily supersedes those - they're better if you're after less "fun" and more neutral sound.
Not as comfortable as the XS, though.

The Susvara sounded like a cleaner XS / Arya / Ananda, with less treble coloration.
Good headphones, but not as magical as one would hope after all the rave reviews.

The HE600, which I was considering, sounded closer to a Sundara than the Susvara. Quite good, but I do prefer the more "fun" character of the egg shaped ones. I don't have a strong opinions on those. Sundara seems to be the better deal if you like less of a V-shape.

Going back home and listening to the HE400SE with some EQ and K371 without it, I don't feel I'm missing out on anything important in the sound.
The XS do tempt me with their comfort and how nice they sound even without EQ.
 
I went to an audio event in my country in the weekend as I wanted to check if it's worth to change my HE400SE to the XS, Ananda or Arya Stealth as those are within my price range.

I've got to try the XS, XV, Sundara, Ananda Nano, Ananda Unveiled, Arya Organic and the Susvara, all running with my choice of music, without EQ, out of FiiO KA15 with 3.5mm or 4.4mm output, whatever was available.

Out of those, the XS were the most comfortable to me. Felt almost like my Sennheiser HD700. At first, I've noticed some coloration in the treble, but I've got adjusted to it within minutes. I was impressed by the level of sub-bass without EQ, although I had to listen at a higher volume than usual due to the meeting conditions - which made the bass even louder relative to the mids.

Anando Nano was quite uncomfortable to me. Buying blind, I'd go for Ananda as so many people complain about the XS' comfort.
I liked the XV at first, but quickly decided I'd rather have more treble, it just works better for what I listen to.

Overall, XS, Ananda & Arya Organic sounded so close that I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite if they were at the same price.

Sundara sounded really good too IMO, most neutral out of those, with leaner bass.
I don't think the XS necessarily supersedes those - they're better if you're after less "fun" and more neutral sound.
Not as comfortable as the XS, though.

The Susvara sounded like a cleaner XS / Arya / Ananda, with less treble coloration.
Good headphones, but not as magical as one would hope after all the rave reviews.

The HE600, which I was considering, sounded closer to a Sundara than the Susvara. Quite good, but I do prefer the more "fun" character of the egg shaped ones. I don't have a strong opinions on those. Sundara seems to be the better deal if you like less of a V-shape.

Going back home and listening to the HE400SE with some EQ and K371 without it, I don't feel I'm missing out on anything important in the sound.
The XS do tempt me with their comfort and how nice they sound even without EQ.
Nice comparisons!

The XS is such a fantastic value and is modifiable, i.e., different headstrap offerings, etc. I've got the Custom Cans headstrap and their Super Grills. Seems to be the one I'm always grabbing these days!
 
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I went to an audio event in my country in the weekend as I wanted to check if it's worth to change my HE400SE to the XS, Ananda or Arya Stealth as those are within my price range.

I've got to try the XS, XV, Sundara, Ananda Nano, Ananda Unveiled, Arya Organic and the Susvara, all running with my choice of music, without EQ, out of FiiO KA15 with 3.5mm or 4.4mm output, whatever was available.

Out of those, the XS were the most comfortable to me. Felt almost like my Sennheiser HD700. At first, I've noticed some coloration in the treble, but I've got adjusted to it within minutes. I was impressed by the level of sub-bass without EQ, although I had to listen at a higher volume than usual due to the meeting conditions - which made the bass even louder relative to the mids.

Anando Nano was quite uncomfortable to me. Buying blind, I'd go for Ananda as so many people complain about the XS' comfort.
I liked the XV at first, but quickly decided I'd rather have more treble, it just works better for what I listen to.

Overall, XS, Ananda & Arya Organic sounded so close that I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite if they were at the same price.

Sundara sounded really good too IMO, most neutral out of those, with leaner bass.
I don't think the XS necessarily supersedes those - they're better if you're after less "fun" and more neutral sound.
Not as comfortable as the XS, though.

The Susvara sounded like a cleaner XS / Arya / Ananda, with less treble coloration.
Good headphones, but not as magical as one would hope after all the rave reviews.

The HE600, which I was considering, sounded closer to a Sundara than the Susvara. Quite good, but I do prefer the more "fun" character of the egg shaped ones. I don't have a strong opinions on those. Sundara seems to be the better deal if you like less of a V-shape.

Going back home and listening to the HE400SE with some EQ and K371 without it, I don't feel I'm missing out on anything important in the sound.
The XS do tempt me with their comfort and how nice they sound even without EQ.
The oval hifimans all appeal to that high treble sheen and draw from the "earspeaker" aspect of their tall drivers.

It all depends if want that extra sparkle or not. For me personally it's a no go, because I have a peculiar resonance at 11-12khz that coincides exactly with their peak, making them unbearable. I much prefer the round shaped ones. From a FR perspective, you'd only gain more bass by "upgrading" to a higher model like the HE600 or the old HE6SE
 
The Edition XS is $209 everyday price now. Instant buy.
Agreed. Crazy how much Hifiman will discount years after release. I paid closer to $500 for mine way back when. Just got a Capra strap, that is a great add, super comfortable. On sale for $20 now.
 
This only goes to show their scale and profit margins. Also, that the best strategy for the new promising releases (like the XV and the HE600) is to just HODL and wait for them to drop exponentially.

Remember, Ananda used to be a 600 usd product; the HE6SE, an 1600 USD one.
 
Agreed. Crazy how much Hifiman will discount years after release. I paid closer to $500 for mine way back when. Just got a Capra strap, that is a great add, super comfortable. On sale for $20 now.
I bought the strap immediately after getting hot spot. Would certainly prefer the Ananda type head gear, but that Capra strap changed everything.
 
I've tried both XS and Ananda and I found that Ananda was quite uncomfortable for me and it didn't seal too well. The XS was very comfortable to me. I'm ordering one, let's see if this also works out for longer usage instead of a short demo.

It was on an audio show, same stand had Arya Organic, Edition XV, Sundara, HE600, Susvara. I think I liked the XS the most, sounding much like the Ananda and Arya.

The XV looked very nice, but I didn't appreciate the darker tuning, contrary to my expectations. I did like it initially, but then the XS changed my mind.

The Sundara is still great, I was impressed by how clean the treble sounded. No-brainer if one's looking for a more neutral set.

Susvara was nothing special, kinda like taking the impressive bass of the egg shaped ones with cleaner treble of the Sundara, with slightly less "zing" to it.

The HE600 sounded like the Sundara, there was no immediate wow effect (which is good or bad depending on who you ask I suppose).

I've seen a reddit post recently that one can easily fit the HD600 series headband pads under the XS headband. Might be cheaper than the strap in some places.
 
This only goes to show their scale and profit margins.
The margins they have are insane.
The entire headphone is not more than 50$ to produce, generously.
Obviously this should be not news to anyone, they can offer HE400SE for 99$ with the same headband, similar amount of metal parts, magnets, printed foil etc. And remember even on that one they are making a profit.
Its just its positioning in the market (in terms of sound), and the brand image they want you to have of them, allow it to be listed at whatever price, they can pick 499$ or 209$ it really makes no difference. They're still running a 5x margin even with that.

I mean the driver is made out of two sandwitched FR4 or FR3 plates they get very cheaply from PCB industry. If you have never opened the headphone up, refer to image on page 1 of this thread. Its on the order of a dozen cents per piece. With two generic thin wires, leading to a generic jack, all at high volume, so far we're barely a dollar in cost. Film and despositing a conductor probably done in house but once you have the roll and the machines, the recuring cost is trivial. They get these on kilometer long spools.

Their "big" cost up until now was neodymium magnets costing them upwards of 10$ per driver, but they've found a way to do away with that pesky cost with the new edition XV and even brag about using non-neodymium magnet in advertising materials. but its ok folks, they "reach similar performance as neodymium due to geometry optimisation". Why they would even openly say it to you like this is beyond me. We could have even achieved higher gap flux density if we did the same optimisation but with neodymium, but we would rather pocket to give you a similar product just cheaper for us to make (and not pass it on to you of course).

Obviously rest of headphone is mostly cheap plastics and stamped & bent metal, anyone who held it in their hands knows already, everything very simple and cheap to make. Exception being the cast aluminium grille which ironically is so resonant you can play it like a harp with your fingernails, it does not really matter but its the one place using some plastic that is much more damped could probably been better for performance, but then headphone would have no basis to even pretend to be premium.
Earpads are also cost optimised to hell, just generic fabric with the cheapest foam inside. You can buy identical pads right now, in small volume, for 11$ a pair, then its no more than 5$ a pair to them. And that is if they're subcontracting them out.

Of course the real takeaway is what sound you could be getting at peanuts cost if the hifi industry decided to run on margins any other industry has.
 
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I've seen a reddit post recently that one can easily fit the HD600 series headband pads under the XS headband. Might be cheaper than the strap in some places.
I showed it in this thread but i guess people are catching on now :)
Actually these days i dont have it tucked in the ends because it can sometimes slip out, i just have it velcro'd in the middle "dip" to hold it in place.
 
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