Hifiman Edition XS bass rattling?

[rieku123]

Hello people,

I am experiencing rattle at lower frequencies and am wondering if it's normal.

The Ultimate Headphones Test

This page helps you evaluate headphones (or earphones) and determine which one offers the best performance when comparing different pairs.

www.audiocheck.net

In the 'Quality' section of this test, the really low frequencies there's quite a bit of rattle, is this normal?

Thanks!

 

[Χ Ξ Σ]

It's normal. Below 30Hz would start sounding as if something is moving at a very rapid pace. This is probably the rattling you heard.

 

[rieku123]

It's normal. Below 30Hz would start sounding as if something is moving at a very rapid pace. This is probably the rattling you heard.

It straight up sounds like rattling, I don't really hear the moving forwards thing.

 

[Χ Ξ Σ]

Try this site. https://www.szynalski.com/tone-

This site allows you to manually select the frequency and hear what it sounds like. You can play with the slider and see from which frequency the rattling begins. If nothing is broken, as you go lower than 30Hz you should hear the sound rattles more, as opposed to higher frequency it just a coherent tone. This is normal and it happens on the subwoofer, IEM or Edition XS that I own. If you have an IEM you can try if it does that, t too.

If the rattling happens at a higher frequency than something might be broken.

 

[rieku123]

Try this site. https://www.szynalski.com/tone-

This site allows you to manually select the frequency and hear what it sounds like. You can play with the slider and see from which frequency the rattling begins. If nothing is broken, as you go lower than 30Hz you should hear the sound rattles more, as opposed to higher frequency it just a coherent tone. This is normal and it happens on the subwoofer, IEM or Edition XS that I own. If you have an IEM you can try if it does that, t too.

If the rattling happens at a higher frequency than something might be broken.

At lower volumes, there is no rattling, but when I up the volume to listenable levels, I can still hear rattling even up to 50hz.

There is a specific song I hear rattling in. Would you mind checking it out?

I've timestamped the bass-heavy portion of the song. I do admit I do listen to it pretty loud as there are not many high notes, but I did kind of expect these headphones to be able to handle the bass without rattle. I want to note that they do not rattle with every bass note in the song, but the really deep ones (listen for around a minute and you might notice them).

I appreciate your help.

 

[Χ Ξ Σ]

It shows the video is unavailable. May be a YouTube regional restriction thing? What's the song's name and artist? I can find it and listen on my edition xs.

 

[rieku123]

It shows the video is unavailable. May be a YouTube regional restriction thing? What's the song's name and artist? I can find it and listen on my edition xs.

La Roux - In for the Kill (Skream remix) My time stamp is at around 0:25.

 

[Χ Ξ Σ]

I listened to 3 difference YouTube uploads of this song through different headphones, IEMs, and speaker system. Around 0:25 the bass did start "pulsing" a little bit, accompanying by slight clipping/popping analog noise sound effect when the vocal come out. I think what you head is just the "pulsing" sound effect of this song, the "creative intent" so to speak.

 

[usern]

Rattling is not normal. See if there is any dust or hair on the driver. Maybe a wire is near the driver. Try shaking the headphones and see if it goes away.

That skream remix is not well mastered and some videos have vinyl imperfections.

See if these sound clean, they go way low in frequencies (for me they do):
Fanu & Larson Whiled - Earl's Brew
16 Bit - Chainsaw Calligraphy

 

[Barone Birra]

It straight up sounds like rattling, I don't really hear the moving forwards thing.

Both the drivers, or only one side?

 

[600_OHM]

Oh wow - when I first got my AKG K712's, this was the *first* thing I put them through.

And almost cried. At very low frequencies it wasn't clean. As the test rolled down I would hear a "pfft" instead of the sliding frequency at times. In both ears at the same time.

I was freaking out, because the source I listen to simply doesn't go that low. (EDM etc). But now that I knew it was there, it spoiled my day.

Resolved to live with it and just spent a week enjoying the new cans. Lotsa' listening. After a week, I revisited the site and re-ran the tests. The "PFFT" was gone!

You know, I don't know if it was a common cable in each side being too close after manufacturing, or the so-called burn-in. I won't even go there. But happy that a week of listening and it was gone. It was bumming me out for a week knowing that it was there, but thank goodness no more.

Hopefully your situation is just a hair, or maybe a just a very close wire with a bit of listening will eventually get rid of it. That site's test was very helpful to me. Well, maybe it would have been better if I didn't know up front!

 

[DrFlimFlam]

was this your problem?

Hifiman Edition XS

I have the Ananda as well. It is "similar" but quite distinct, the largest difference being the bass which rolls off early on the Ananda but doesn't on the Edition XS or Arya Stealth. Also the Ananda is possibly a little more restrained, less sharp in the lower treble. I find the Edition XS and...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[Srikanth]

It's normal. Below 30Hz would start sounding as if something is moving at a very rapid pace. This is probably the rattling you heard.

Hi, yesterday I found that the left driver of edition xs is rattling at around 60HZ where as right side driver is perfect. The rattling is too much. Opened the cushion and cleaned up but no use.my product is under warranty. Will Hifiman replace my headphones? Any help ?

 

[Jimbob54]

Hi, yesterday I found that the left driver of edition xs is rattling at around 60HZ where as right side driver is perfect. The rattling is too much. Opened the cushion and cleaned up but no use.my product is under warranty. Will Hifiman replace my headphones? Any help ?

Better asking your retailer.

 

[ojgnay]

was this your problem?

Hifiman Edition XS

I have the Ananda as well. It is "similar" but quite distinct, the largest difference being the bass which rolls off early on the Ananda but doesn't on the Edition XS or Arya Stealth. Also the Ananda is possibly a little more restrained, less sharp in the lower treble. I find the Edition XS and...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Hey! I have this same problem. Are you still having this issue? It's only on my left side.

 

[Tobi]

@ OP

You can try to shine a light at the inside of the ear cups, then watch from the side. if there is any light shining through between the headphone cups and your earpads, it might indicate one pad does not seal properly...

Or, in another way: My Edition XS has also been crackling in one cup when I got them, I checked for leakage and found one pad clip was not properly pushed in, presumably resulting in an air gap. I guess that then resulted in the planar driver resonance and the crackling at loud bass notes.

I clicked it in properly and in my case the crackling went away.

 

[half_dog]

I had a similar problem with a HE400SE and I could check it with this song

In my case, one of the diaphragms had a hole below a magnet - don't open it if you are willing to send it back. Luckily AliExpress accepted my refund request because the disassembly was recorded.

 

[Srikanth]

I had a similar problem with a HE400SE and I could check it with this song

In my case, one of the diaphragms had a hole below a magnet - don't open it if you are willing to send it back. Luckily AliExpress accepted my refund request because the disassembly was recorded.

Hey, i have been using my headphones for last 6 months.even if they have a hole,they can't replace it. Because it comes under physical damage. But in my case, I am from India and there is only 1service centre in the country. Luckily i am a resident of that city. I called the service centre. They told me that they will check the product, if there is a problem they will replace it.
I will update the status later.

 

[Cylphio]

the tic tic sound was in all of the 3 attempt I made to buy these disasters. very good sound in a terrible construction