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Hifiman Ananda Review (headphone)

GaryH

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At this rate, I think I am ready to send him mine just to make this stop :oops:
Or easier, you could just post another photo of your pair with the headband and yokes shifted to one side as in this post, to confirm my suspicion that there's absolutely nothing wrong with his pair ;)
 

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Hifiman.... This brand is absolutely horrible. Just after my warranty ended, headphone literally fall apart and today the right driver is died. Huge loss for me where i live. It's years of saving. What Hifiman do is absolutely scammy and disrespectful.
 

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sorry to hear that. Contact them anyway. Mine are going strong and have had zero issues, which seems much more typical.
 

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sorry to hear that. Contact them anyway. Mine are going strong and have had zero issues, which seems much more typical.
Customer service showed a middle finger. I have to pay more than Edition XS price to get a replacement. I wouldn't say your experience is typical. It's way too common issue with Hifimans. In case of Ananda, it's $700 product and cost near $1k with shipping and taxes. Has only 1 year warranty and has a very poor build, design and reliability. Barely 1.5 years of use and my $1k is gone. And the $1k is incredible amount of money in my country. Average wage(monthly) is like $300 and you can barely live with that let alone saving. No other headphone died on me and no other headphone degraded as much as Ananda in span of 1.5 years. And the severity of this problem shows that it's either a planned obsolescence or fault with the design/fabrication. It's not a customer fault.
 

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I have not read much about Ananda failures, so this is news to me. Mine were an open box sale, and netted out to ~$550. They looked completely untouched when I opened the box. I have looked them over and struggled to see the poor build/ poor design -- can you please be more specific about the failures you have encountered? Any photos so I know what to look for?
 

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haha, well I can at least send you some more pics if you need, when I get around to it.
Please post them on this thread if you do, so we can all see this 'mystery' solved.
 
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In case of Ananda, it's $700 product and cost near $1k with shipping and taxes. Has only 1 year warranty and has a very poor build, design and reliability. Barely 1.5 years of use and my $1k is gone. And the $1k is incredible amount of money in my country. Average wage(monthly) is like $300 and you can barely live with that let alone saving.
Perhaps you now understand why I asked this question.
 

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Hifiman.... This brand is absolutely horrible. Just after my warranty ended, headphone literally fall apart and today the right driver is died. Huge loss for me where i live. It's years of saving. What Hifiman do is absolutely scammy and disrespectful.

Did you check if this is a maybe a simple problem with the connection/soldering to the driver?
I would remove the pad like described in the manual and maybe bring it to a local electrician (if you have no clue).
 

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Customer service showed a middle finger. I have to pay more than Edition XS price to get a replacement. I wouldn't say your experience is typical. It's way too common issue with Hifimans. In case of Ananda, it's $700 product and cost near $1k with shipping and taxes. Has only 1 year warranty and has a very poor build, design and reliability. Barely 1.5 years of use and my $1k is gone. And the $1k is incredible amount of money in my country. Average wage(monthly) is like $300 and you can barely live with that let alone saving. No other headphone died on me and no other headphone degraded as much as Ananda in span of 1.5 years. And the severity of this problem shows that it's either a planned obsolescence or fault with the design/fabrication. It's not a customer fault.
Man, that sucks, really sorry to hear that, especially given your comparisons you made to the average wage in your country. If I was you (and given the monetary comparisons you made) I'd stay away from $700 headphones, maybe try the Senn HD560s, it's my favourite headphone - good soundstage, stock frequency response is quite close to Harman and easy to fix with EQ (Oratory EQ), and low distortion headphone too, £169 in my country the UK, so would be a lot less money than your Anandas.
 

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Perhaps you now understand why I asked this question.
I still don't understand what is your point in both topics. What are you trying to tell really ?
I have not read much about Ananda failures, so this is news to me. Mine were an open box sale, and netted out to ~$550. They looked completely untouched when I opened the box. I have looked them over and struggled to see the poor build/ poor design -- can you please be more specific about the failures you have encountered? Any photos so I know what to look for?
I may do a post about all the problems backed by pictures when i don't feel lazy. English is not my native language so i don't feel confident describing the problems. Overall the design and materials are pretty bad. How it's all combined (fabrication process) very poor. Reliability of headband, earpad, drivers etc all bad. It's ridiculous. If you have experience with Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic and even newbie Focal you will understand better. Hifiman feels like built in basement with underpaid slaves with the goal of cutting cost to the extremes, cheaping out and having planned obsolescence to sell you spare parts with premium price or make you buy a new headphone. I get it, this hobby is for the rich people but still, not ethical.
Did you check if this is a maybe a simple problem with the connection/soldering to the driver?
I would remove the pad like described in the manual and maybe bring it to a local electrician (if you have no clue).
I doubt it but i'll investigate it for sure.
Man, that sucks, really sorry to hear that, especially given your comparisons you made to the average wage in your country. If I was you (and given the monetary comparisons you made) I'd stay away from $700 headphones, maybe try the Senn HD560s, it's my favourite headphone - good soundstage, stock frequency response is quite close to Harman and easy to fix with EQ (Oratory EQ), and low distortion headphone too, £169 in my country the UK, so would be a lot less money than your Anandas.
I will go back to my trusty DT 770. Economy is f'ed right now so i don't think i will be able to buy anything soon. Ananda is 2x more expensive right now lol. I paid 6400, it's 12800 right now despite staying at the same $700 price. Things weren't this bad. I get into bitcoin to save up slowly but it dropped this month pretty bad. Unlucky month.
 

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I still don't understand what is your point in both topics. What are you trying to tell really ?
That restricting headphone comparisons/choices with a lower limit on price makes no sense (obviously an upper limit is fine however to stay below budget), because there is little to no correlation between price and sound quality of headphones, and as you've experienced, higher price doesn't necessarily result in better durability either. This hobby is certainly not only for the rich.
 
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I will go back to my trusty DT 770. Economy is f'ed right now so i don't think i will be able to buy anything soon. Ananda is 2x more expensive right now lol. I paid 6400, it's 12800 right now despite staying at the same $700 price. Things weren't this bad. I get into bitcoin to save up slowly but it dropped this month pretty bad. Unlucky month.
If you do buy another headphone at some point keep in mind what GaryH is saying in the post above mine....and for instance the Senn HD560s is a very good value choice in my experience.
 

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That restricting headphone comparisons/choices with a lower limit on price makes no sense (obviously an upper limit is fine however to stay below budget), because there is little to no correlation between price and sound quality of headphones, and as you've experienced, higher price doesn't necessarily result in better durability either. This hobby certainly is not only for the rich.
I agree with you. I said nothing against this. I guess you misunderstood our conversation regarding tonality between HD800S and it's competitors. I don't know why you felt you needed to say this.
 

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If you do buy another headphone at some point keep in mind what GaryH is saying in the post above mine....and for instance the Senn HD560s is a very good value choice in my experience.
Thanks for the recommendation. I don't like 6xx variants but i heard good things about soundstage of 560S so i may get it.
 

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I agree with you. I said nothing against this. I guess you misunderstood our conversation regarding tonality between HD800S and it's competitors. I don't know why you felt you needed to say this.
Because as many others do, you made the mistake of limiting the comparison to headphones of 'competitive' price, ignoring lower cost headphones, just following the artificially created marketing mantra of correlating price/performance bands, which has been shown to be false as you can see in the graph I linked above. To the user, any headphone of comparable level of sound quality to another should be seen as a competitor and included in comparisons. The only way price should come into it is setting an upper limit based on personal budget.
 
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Thanks for the recommendation. I don't like 6xx variants but i heard good things about soundstage of 560S so i may get it.
That's right, I don't really like the 6XX variants either, I have the HD600 and it's soundstage is very poor for me, so the HD560s is quite different to the HD600 in this respect, and it also does bass better than the HD6XX variants.
 
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