Isn't the AHB2 a class H amp, ie not purely AB? (again, not that it matters from an *audible* perspective)
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My understanding is that it is AB with class H Rails, technically, but the claim has been made by the manufacturer.
"The AHB2 is powerful, compact, cool running and passively cooled (no fans). On the basis of these characteristics, the AHB2 resembles many class-D switching amplifiers. But make no mistake, the AHB2 is not a class-D amplifier! The AHB2 is a linear class-H amplifier with bipolar output transistors and a unique feedforward error-correction system."
"The AHB2 is powerful, compact, cool running and passively cooled (no fans). On the basis of these characteristics, the AHB2 resembles many class-D switching amplifiers. But make no mistake, the AHB2 is not a class-D amplifier! The AHB2 is a linear class-H amplifier with bipolar output transistors and a unique feedforward error-correction system."
Class AB, AKM and 7k USD you have the Hegel H400 integrated amplifier.
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Although you could do much better with an RME ADI-2 DAC + NCx500 amp...
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Although you could do much better with an RME ADI-2 DAC + NCx500 amp...
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Yup... I misinterpreted the snippet that I bothered to read. Those events are increasing with a regularity that causes reality to infringe on my delusion... lol. Thanks for the elucidation for which I'm always open. (@Forty six and two did you hear that "open to elucidation" part?)My understanding is that it is AB with class H Rails, technically, but the claim has been made by the manufacturer.
"The AHB2 is powerful, compact, cool running and passively cooled (no fans). On the basis of these characteristics, the AHB2 resembles many class-D switching amplifiers. But make no mistake, the AHB2 is not a class-D amplifier! The AHB2 is a linear class-H amplifier with bipolar output transistors and a unique feedforward error-correction system."
Didn't Amir run into some quality issue with a Hegel?Class AB, AKM and 7k USD you have the Hegel H400 integrated amplifier.
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Although you could do much better with an RME ADI-2 DAC + NCx500 amp...
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To be clear, if I was starting over and wanted to buy a great value setup for nearly any passive speaker, I would stick with the RME (dynamic loudness is key to me) and probably buy a Buckeye amp. Benchmark would be a good choice as well.
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H400 looks ok to me.Didn't Amir run into some quality issue with a Hegel?
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Does it matter when it ticks all the OPs boxes? At least it's class AB, has an AKM DAC, and expensive enough!
And if it measures similarly to that H95, the OP can indeed say that it sounds differently.
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Yes, but that's based upon your knowledge from years of experience. The OP is looking for a "sound" in his imagination. Might I suggest asking Don Juan... where clarity abounds. ("... gather your wits and hold on fast, your mind must learn to roam...")
Ok... this feels more like my rebuking self... so I'll exit the thread before it's no longer my choice... lol.
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And what's wrong with that?Does it matter when it ticks all the OPs boxes? At least it's class AB, has an AKM DAC, and expensive enough!
And if it measures similarly to that H95, the OP can indeed say that it sounds differently.
AKM's tradition comes from the time that they measured the same across the spectrum (unlike others and not counting scam attempts) .
I too love them even if at that time DACs don't matter much but it's them that set some high standards long a while ago (at least they didn't put out the market stuff like 9023 and the cheapo fashion) .
Also what's wrong with AB's,the SINAD chart has them as champions.And absolutely nothing wrong if they are big enough for thermals to be ok as the Hegel @Matias posted above which passed nicely the continuous power test of Soundstage (let's not forger,amps are about power) .
Sadly another AB didn't have much luck today admittedly but they should see that coming at that tiny size.
And absolurelly² for paying more if it looks nice and up to your taste.
Objective overall performance is what matters,either it's a cheap Yamaha or a nice Halcro,along with honest specs,safety (certifications and stuff) ,solid support,etc.
Outlaw Audio RR2160MkII
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Streaming
100 watt @ 8 Ohm
Doesn't have an AKM chip but...it does have a BB chip which was always praised as very warm, velvety and analog like, not edgy , digital and analytical like the dreaded ESS.
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100 watt @ 8 Ohm
Doesn't have an AKM chip but...it does have a BB chip which was always praised as very warm, velvety and analog like, not edgy , digital and analytical like the dreaded ESS.
If you've genuinely heard a difference, rather than just perceptive bias, then I am certain it is coming from something other than the DAC chip.
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Nothing wrong with AKM. If you follow this thread from the start, there is something wrong with the OP's attitude towards DACs, amps, and other members.
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Yes,I saw that now.
Before I answer about the claimed differences though I would ask about levels,gain structure of the system,speakers used,music works used,etc for starters.
It's nice seeing the results at 0dB but sometimes not so nice at -30dB and with a crooked gain structure.
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