Help for additional parts for C6B speakers

[Jiraya369]

So I'm getting the C6B and I'm looking at stands, cables and an amp. The speaker's dimensions are HWD - 15.7x8x10.4 inches

The stand im looking at has a base of 9x9 inches, the cables are the world's best cable 14 awg 2.5 m banana connectors and the amp im gonna be using rn is the topping pa5 ii OR the topping mini300.

Are these alright? I'm going to be 1-1.3m from the speakers, don't need em to get too loud for now i just want SOME output.

 

[Sokel]

Make sure that the amp you will choose can deal with this:

 

[staticV3]

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The PA5 II and Mini 300 both spec a minimum load impedance of 4Ω.

 

[Jiraya369]

Make sure that the amp you will choose can deal with this:

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im sorry i dont understand this

 

[Jiraya369]

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The PA5 II and Mini 300 both spec a minimum load impedance of 4Ω.

would the c6b fry my amp?

and DANG IT that amp looks so nice but the thing is, the mini300 is available where i live for near msrp, i couldn't resist the fast shipping, warranty and low price. the 3e one is a bit more expensive and i must admit that i've burned through all my money for the time being lol

 

[Jiraya369]

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The PA5 II and Mini 300 both spec a minimum load impedance of 4Ω.

i looked into it and i dont even know how to purchase it lmao

 

[Good Vibes]

What Static is saying, is that both the PA5 II and Mini 300 are not capable of driving the C6B’s. They aren’t easy to drive and you will need an amplifier that is capable of handling a 2ohm load. It doesn’t matter what price those amps are going for, they aren’t suitable for your speakers.

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[Jiraya369]

What Static is saying, is that both the PA5 II and Mini 300 are not capable of driving the C6B’s. They aren’t easy to drive and you will need an amplifier that is capable of handling a 2ohm load. It doesn’t matter what price those amps are going for, they aren’t suitable for your speakers.

Depending on what country and import duties you may or may not have to pay, you can get the 3E Audio amplifiers at an attractive sale price sale on Ali express. Their next sale could be in January.

so the amps will turn off before playing the c6b?

 

[Jiraya369]

for example, i saw erin and ascilab themselves suggest STRONG 4 ohm capable amplifiers but no one really mentioned anything about 2 ohms. I was concerned about 2 ohms at first but they'd have mentioned it themselves right?

 

[Good Vibes]

Taken from Erin’s website:

• Impedance: Nominal 4 Ohm (min 200Hz / 2.6 Ohm)

 

[Jiraya369]

Taken from Erin’s website:

• Impedance: Nominal 4 Ohm (min 200Hz / 2.6 Ohm)

yeah i saw that and that's what i was concerned with but why are erin and ascilab only talking about 4 ohm amps then?

 

[Sokel]

yeah i saw that and that's what i was concerned with but why are erin and ascilab only talking about 4 ohm amps then?

The chart I posted for you shows a broad dip at the exact range where all things happen, specially the 100Hz-300Hz, there's usually a constant bulk of energy there.

Your amp must be capable of delivering there, so a 2 Ohm spec-d amp is the way to go.

Consider yourself lucky that we live at a time that you can find such amps at very cheap prices, 10-15 years ago you would need a lot more to get an amp that can deliver effortlessly down there.

 

[Jiraya369]

The chart I posted for you shows a broad dip at the exact range where all things happen, specially the 100Hz-300Hz, there's usually a constant bulk of energy there.

Your amp must be capable of delivering there, so a 2 Ohm spec-d amp is the way to go.

Consider yourself lucky that we live at a time that you can find such amps at very cheap prices, 10-15 years ago you would need a lot more to get an amp that can deliver effortlessly down there.

what im asking is what will happen if i dont have a 2 ohm capable amp, will the amp get fried? will the speakers get fried? will it not make sound?

I'm going to get a Wiim Amp Ultra later on when i buy a subwoofer so i can have a crossover, i just cant do it right now

 

[amper42]

Why design a speaker with 2 ohm spec from 200Hz to 500Hz? Seems a bit odd.

 

[Sokel]

what im asking is what will happen if i dont have a 2 ohm capable amp, will the amp get fried? will the speakers get fried? will it not make sound?

I'm going to get a Wiim Amp Ultra later on when i buy a subwoofer so i can have a crossover, i just cant do it right now

Maybe nothing at all, maybe all the above, or some of them.
It's a bet.

Maybe the small listening distance (thus lower levels) will save it, maybe not .

But since you get what seems to be a nice speaker it deserves an amp that's not borderline failure or a bet.
You want a well made amp, with thermals at check, etc, if you read the TPA3255's data sheet you will find out that cooling of the amp is essential, specially when the load gets tougher.

 

[Jiraya369]

Maybe nothing at all, maybe all the above, or some of them.
It's a bet.

Maybe the small listening distance (thus lower levels) will save it, maybe not .

But since you get what seems to be a nice speaker it deserves an amp that's not borderline failure or a bet.
You want a well made amp, with thermals at check, etc, if you read the TPA3255's data sheet you will find out that cooling of the amp is essential, specially when the load gets tougher.

so you dont know what you're talking about?

 

[Sokel]

so you dont know what you're talking about?

I do know what I'm talking about but it makes hard that you can't read charts.

Here's one of them, showing the cooling needs of the amp (a typical TPA3255) at different loads (and it does not even show 2 Ohm! )

(link)

Power losses (=heat) goes way higher as load goes tougher.

Hope you find a good amp!

 

[Good Vibes]

The hard way can be a good way to learn.

 

[Jiraya369]

I do know what I'm talking about but it makes hard that you can't read charts.

Here's one of them, showing the cooling needs of the amp (a typical TPA3255) at different loads (and it does not even show 2 Ohm! )

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(link)

Power losses (=heat) goes way higher as load goes tougher.

Hope you find a good amp!

i understand that lower impedance = higher wattage = more power = more heat, and that means better cooling is needed.

But i was just asking what could go wrong right now and you just dropped a bunch of maybe's. I mean i know that MAYBE it'll get fried, MAYBE the amp wont be cool enough, MAYBE the speaker might explode, but dropping just another maybe isn't really helpful as im just as lost about the subject as i was in the beginning.

 

[Sokel]

i understand that lower impedance = higher wattage = more power = more heat, and that means better cooling is needed.

But i was just asking what could go wrong right now and you just dropped a bunch of maybe's. I mean i know that MAYBE it'll get fried, MAYBE the amp wont be cool enough, MAYBE the speaker might explode, but dropping just another maybe isn't really helpful as im just as lost about the subject as i was in the beginning.

All these "maybe" should be enough for you so to get an amp that it's not a "maybe".
Like the one static suggested, or similar.

Ask yourself if you can enjoy your music while worrying about a potential failure.
Peace of mind is one of my essentials, you're maybe more relaxed than me and that's perfectly ok, it's your gear after all.