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Help finding right Sennheiser Headphone

Buckchester said:
None. There are better options.

7hz crinacle zero 2
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Those are IEMs (which are never anywhere near as comfortable as headphones). If I end up using my current IEMs enough to justify upgrading, I might try the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero (theyre cheep and the only ones Amir liked so much he didn't make a PEQ for, but I have a feeling I have different taste to him...)
Buckchester said:
AKG k371
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This look interesting. I know Sennheiser headphones are really comfortable (which is why I'm a bit of a loyalist...), but they look like they could be as well.
Assuming I am in fact cable of reading graphs, they appear to have too much bass (<200khz) and not enough treble (around 3–4khz) for my liking
Buckchester said:
Dan Clark Aeon Noire
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Those are very expensive.
 
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IsaacOscar said:
Those are IEMs (which are never anywhere near as comfortable as headphones). If I end up using my current IEMs enough to justify upgrading, I might try the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero (theyre cheep and the only ones Amir liked so much he didn't make a PEQ for, but I have a feeling I have different taste to him...)
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I've got the Zeros and the Zero 2s. I prefer the Zero 2 without PEQ to the Zero without PEQ. The difference is that the bass is boosted slightly in the Zero 2s while the treble is ever so slightly depressed. That makes for more relaxed listening with the Zero 2s. But the two are very close and it really will boil down to personal preference. I've got PEQ, am using it with the Zero 2s, but the difference is very slight. Having the IEMs sit firmly in the ears affects the sound more, these IEMs with the supplied tips don't have the firmest or most consistent seal.
 
Robin L said:
I've got the Zeros and the Zero 2s. I prefer the Zero 2 without PEQ to the Zero without PEQ. The difference is that the bass is boosted slightly in the Zero 2s while the treble is ever so slightly depressed. That makes for more relaxed listening with the Zero 2s. But the two are very close and it really will boil down to personal preference. I've got PEQ, am using it with the Zero 2s, but the difference is very slight. Having the IEMs sit firmly in the ears affects the sound more, these IEMs with the supplied tips don't have the firmest or most consistent seal.
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My IEMs (Sennheiser M2 IEG) have too much bass, so the Zero sounds better.
As for tips, I've been using Comply foam, they're much more comfortable than silicon and definitely sound better. But they are expensive and don't last long..., they increase the sound of my jaw moving, and take longer to put in properly.
 
solderdude said:
I've got both (and lots of other headphones).. most listening time ... the JT7 (without any EQ) along with the HD800 (with obligatory EQ).
Just hoping they will last as long as Sennheisers.
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Do you have the FT7, their frequency response looks similar, but the price is not (they come with a liquid nitrogen monocrystaline copper cable!)? (The FT1 on the other hand has a horrendous looking frequency response, so I would avoid those)
 
I have the HD600. I do miss the bass and the treble, but they have a "reference" sound and they will last forever. Replacement parts are also easily available. My K371s are barely holding together after 5 years and 3 (third-party) pad swaps...

solderdude said:
Jade Audio JT7 :) ... believe it or not.
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Just saw the measurements on your site. They look quite good. :)

Here's hoping for durability.
 
IsaacOscar said:
Do you have the FT7, their frequency response looks similar, but the price is not (they come with a liquid nitrogen monocrystaline copper cable!)? (The FT1 on the other hand has a horrendous looking frequency response, so I would avoid those)
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Have not bought the FT7.... but did buy the HD550 (to get the thread back on topic).
 
hifiperser said:
Yeah kind of too much from everything Kind of inbetween the 550 new vs. 650 used
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I just bought the HD 550 (on sale for AU$400, or about 240€), and they are absolutely amazing (better than my one-ear HD 558, as they have more base, but about the same soundstage). The headband is slightly less comfortable though (it has a leatherlike thing integrated into it, instead of a seperate piece of foam attached to it).

The HD 600 was also on sale for AU$500 (about 300€), but unlike the HD 550 there wasn't one in a store I could actually test, so it wasn't worth the risk (it has higher impedance which could be a problem for my phone, and it takes a different kind of cable (having both cups connected by seperate cables just sounds annoying) so I'd have to spend another AU$50 to get a 4.4mm one for my computer and a microphone/button one for my phone).

Of course the HD 600 looks much nicer (I like black, it's annoying the HD 550 has silver accents, instead of the plain black of the HD 560S; I also like seeing the internals of stuff).

From the frequency response graphs I found its really hard to tell which one would sound better (maybe the 550, because it has more bass, and doesn't have the massive peak at 8kHz?)
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Personally I would avoid getting used headphones, in case the previous owner had a wider head (and thus stretched the band too much).
 
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One thing to keep in mind is while the 560S and 600 (to me) sound fairly similar the headband and earcup design can impact comfort and sound quite a bit. The 560s design is sensitive to placement while the 600 style is not really and I know some people don't like the 560s design as their ears touch the inside of the earcups. For me personally the 560s/599s don't stay put on my head as well so I'm not a big fan.
 
I own a heap of Sennheiser headphones but the best ones are the vintage ones made in Germany in the 80s and early 90s. My best set are the 600 ohm HD 520, I use a balanced cable with them and they're far better than my HD 599 se. I also have some HD 450 ii from 1991, they're also better but have less bass than the 520s. The vintage ones seem to be more sparkly and vivid.
 
I came to this topic too late. Does anyone know any Tinnitus study related to sound pressure but I mean real pressure from bottom two octaves? Would like to see discussion develop on this topic. Regarding generally tinnitus the wite focused noise on low SPL is considered as therapy. Taking all this in consideration I can't stop thinking about planars pumping bass as hell but not producing any real pressure. With such and ELC to lower SPL taken in consideration for FR.
 
IsaacOscar said:
I just bought the HD 550 (on sale for AU$400, or about 240€), and they are absolutely amazing (better than my one-ear HD 558, as they have more base, but about the same soundstage). The headband is slightly less comfortable though (it has a leatherlike thing integrated into it, instead of a seperate piece of foam attached to it).

The HD 600 was also on sale for AU$500 (about 300€), but unlike the HD 550 there wasn't one in a store I could actually test, so it wasn't worth the risk (it has higher impedance which could be a problem for my phone, and it takes a different kind of cable (having both cups connected by seperate cables just sounds annoying) so I'd have to spend another AU$50 to get a 4.4mm one for my computer and a microphone/button one for my phone).

Of course the HD 600 looks much nicer (I like black, it's annoying the HD 550 has silver accents, instead of the plain black of the HD 560S; I also like seeing the internals of stuff).

From the frequency response graphs I found its really hard to tell which one would sound better (maybe the 550, because it has more bass, and doesn't have the massive peak at 8kHz?)
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Personally I would avoid getting used headphones, in case the previous owner had a wider head (and thus stretched the band too much).
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So I ended up buying a used HD 600 for AU$340 and other than the cable, they looked/felt brand new. I posted my subjective comparison between the HD 600 ans 550 here,
but basically the only noticeable difference is that the HD 600 are more comfortable (and look cooler!).

I'm now curious if the HD 800 series are even more comfortable. But used they're at least AU$1,200... it'd probably be cheaper to fly over to someone that has a pair I could try...
 
DEJ915 said:
One thing to keep in mind is while the 560S and 600 (to me) sound fairly similar the headband and earcup design can impact comfort and sound quite a bit. The 560s design is sensitive to placement while the 600 style is not really and I know some people don't like the 560s design as their ears touch the inside of the earcups. For me personally the 560s/599s don't stay put on my head as well so I'm not a big fan.
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In general, comfort is very important to me. I'd recommend wearing your favorite model before you buy. It is annoying when the headphone is too heavy or doesn't fit your head well. No matter how good it sounds, if it is not comfortable to wear, I'd look elsewhere.
Visited the first Munich HiFi Days in Munich/Bavaria yesterday and wondered how different the Sennheiser HD820 (closed type) and HD800S (open) felt upon my head. Wouldn't buy either of them because of lack of comfort.
 
Linnie said:
In general, comfort is very important to me. I'd recommend wearing your favorite model before you buy. It is annoying when the headphone is too heavy or doesn't fit your head well. No matter how good it sounds, if it is not comfortable to wear, I'd look elsewhere.
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One thing I've had problems with is my head is fat, so headphones are usually uncomfortably tight. I can fix this by flattening out the headband a few times with my hands to make them wider. Of course then they'll be too loose for anyone else wearing them, so I don't do this unless I already own them...

Linnie said:
Visited the first Munich HiFi Days in Munich/Bavaria yesterday and wondered how different the Sennheiser HD820 (closed type) and HD800S (open) felt upon my head. Wouldn't buy either of them because of lack of comfort.
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Hmm, do you have any idea what makes them less comfortable? To me they look like the earpwds might not be deep enough compared to the HD 600 series, or even the 500 series.
 
IsaacOscar said:
Hmm, do you have any idea what makes them less comfortable? To me they look like the earpwds might not be deep enough compared to the HD 600 series, or even the 500 series.
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No, I wondered myself, as they look pretty similar. The HD820 was more comfortable but of course sat rather tight. The HD800 felt somewhat hard, with big cups. Both are rather heavy for my taste. And you have to adapt the HD800 headband manually and incrementally, how annoying...
All subjective, of course.
 
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