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Heavily EQ'd HD 800S - ASR wants me to pick another pair
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solderdude
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If it were me I would want to find out if any of my theories would be real.
Nothing as simple and easy to do and non destructive.
Just pinch the cloth between to fingers and pull it out.
It goes back in just as easily.
But I get it... you simply don't like the HD800S... there are more people that just don't like it.
Nothing as simple and easy to do and non destructive.
Just pinch the cloth between to fingers and pull it out.
It goes back in just as easily.
But I get it... you simply don't like the HD800S... there are more people that just don't like it.
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To be honest I don't want to tinker with Headphones that much.
Changing earpads, changing headband - I do that on the cheap beyerdynamics
But on > 1000 EUR Headphones? No way. That's their job... Or whoever sells me them.
LOL I stumbled around Apparently you can just take the jacks out my pulling on them.
Might make them an easier target for modding mini XLR into them?
In any case, I'd prefer tankier headphones
Changing earpads, changing headband - I do that on the cheap beyerdynamics
But on > 1000 EUR Headphones? No way. That's their job... Or whoever sells me them.
LOL I stumbled around Apparently you can just take the jacks out my pulling on them.
Might make them an easier target for modding mini XLR into them?
In any case, I'd prefer tankier headphones
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solderdude
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First time I have seen this.
Appears to be an error in the (manual assembly) production process. Happens... not all not obvious issues are always spotted unless they are found in the field and Sennheiser QC gets wind of it.
I'm quite sure this does/did not happen with your pair.
If one looks really deep into posts about any headphone you will find 'problems' in all models of all brands.
It also is not related to your particular issue. You just have a theory (which I did not find anyone on the web to subscribe to) that it is the metal mesh.
You could easily prove that to yourself in a very simple way as I described. That was my point.
There isn't a single 'perfect' headphone on this planet. At least not among the 150+ I tried/measured.
All of them have some issues either on my fixture or my head to me be it comfort/fit/tonality/distortion at higher level wise.
Some one can fix, some one can not and EQ certainly isn't the only answer.
Now you turned this thread into making fun of the HD800S, simply because you're disappointed.
Yep, these aren't tanky but certainly aren't fragile. That said... when abusing any headphone they will break somewhere.
They don't have to be tanky either. Most owners treat such expensive headphones with care.
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solderdude
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Thanks. Well, I gotta save up to be able to afford them again... and this time with a better cable, I guess...From another HD800S thread:
solderdude
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You weren't bothered by the light metallic 'sheen' in cymbals and other instruments with the (original) Utopia ?
To me they sounded very, very similar to my EQ'ed HD800 with the only exception being the 'metalic' treble which sometimes worked well but on other music didn't.
Too similar so I could not justify the price difference.
b.t.w. I don't like the original cable from the HD800 and replaced it quickly. Way too stiff.
Comfort on Beyers is great... Have you tried the DT1990 (needs some treble reducing) ?
To me they sounded very, very similar to my EQ'ed HD800 with the only exception being the 'metalic' treble which sometimes worked well but on other music didn't.
Too similar so I could not justify the price difference.
b.t.w. I don't like the original cable from the HD800 and replaced it quickly. Way too stiff.
Comfort on Beyers is great... Have you tried the DT1990 (needs some treble reducing) ?
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Not at all! I could enjoy them without touching it in the slightest.
Witcher 3 Soundtrack sounded a lot cinematic.
Focal Utopia moreover introduced a bass emphasis on Songs ( coloring ) - which I could feel as it felt like a massage on this Song, specifically the drum n bass soundy part in the beginning before the instruments. At around 7 to 8 seconds
I cannot even hear that on my APS Klasik 2020. I think objectively that would be a flaw... Right?
It's not even the bass playing, it's that back and forth effect with that electronic element...
Vocals were astoundingly clear.
However, there is one thing I really missed in Focal Utopia is definitely intimacy to how close or far things are.
The minimum reachable distance was not as good in my opinion at what DT 770 / DT 990 Pro could deliver.
The max reachable distance was far better.
It's not an artificial distance / openness like in Beyerdynamic Amiron Home (which I really hated)
And I talk about recordings from a Neumann KU100.
Example: Somebody whispering into my ear, tapping my ear etc.
And I know this may be subjective.
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solderdude
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If your hearing happened to have dips where it has peaks then yes... possible you could not be bothered by it. The peaks are very narrow (high-Q) so aren't as audible as they may seem in the plots. The hearing has a way of 'smoothing' out high Q peaks and is the reason why one mostly publishes smoothed plots.
This was better in the (original) Clear but that one had other issues like channel imbalance in FR and level. Maybe it was just that copy.
Different metal dome drivers.
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