Has anyone heard / measured Acoulab Première S ??

[JaquesLeBricoleur]

I recently discovered a german brand called acoulab.. (www.acoulab.eu)

I had never heard of them before, but they have an interesting speaker "Première S". What caught my eye was the use of motional feedback, which i only know from some old Philips speakers.

Has anyone heard these speakers or can share any measurements ?

 

[Puddingbuks]

Saw them today online, look nice and promising!

Found a review over here: https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/acoulab-premiere-s/

 

[JaquesLeBricoleur]

Hello Friends,

i just had to see (or listen) for myself, so i just ordered the demo kit. They have not arrived yet, but probably will this week.
If you are interested, i will try to do some measurements and share my impressions.

 

[mrx180g]

Hello Friends,

i just had to see (or listen) for myself, so i just ordered the demo kit. They have not arrived yet, but probably will this week.
If you are interested, i will try to do some measurements and share my impressions.

Hello, I am interested. How do they sounds? Looks very promising.

 

[VintageFlanker]

I was about to create a thread for this...

Indeed they "look" like very promising speakers:

Première S

Active Architecture. While any speaker with built-in amplification can be called “active”, Premières fully active architecture goes far beyond the traditional definition of an active loudspeaker. Leveraging modern digital signal processing and proprietary motional feedback technology, Première...

www.acoulab.eu

Pretty enclosure, high end ADC and DSP, nCore amplification with active crossover... I was very tempted until I mailed them, asking for measurements. In fact I was hesitant between this and my actual Buchardt A500 Signature Edition, which are priced about the same. Here is part of their answer:

Unfortunately, we are not publishing measurements.
As you have probably read on our philosophy page, we are using measurements extensively in development, but don’t believe that they will give potential customers a good idea of how the product will work for them.

It is indeed part of their "philosophy":

While measurement plays an important role in product development and quality control, when it comes to evaluating human perception of sound, there is no better judge than a human listener.

OK... Now I'm wondering, how a 100% newcomer company dare to make such statements ("no bullshit approach", to quote them) and the other way, refuse to provide any, even tiny but of measurements to an interested customer? A 4700€ speaker with a lot of technical buzzwords about the parts it uses, but they refuse to publish the actual result of their work ?!...

This approach + only one year of warranty (remember: 4700€ for active speakers from a company with litteraly zero background)...So many ref flags raised for me...

 

[Tarnith]

Hate to bump a dead thread but I'm curious.

Anyone manage to put these in a Klippel or even just point a calibration mic at them?

 

[VintageFlanker]

Anyone manage to put these in a Klippel or even just point a calibration mic at them?

Do you know "anyone" who has a Klippel NFS ? This is a very limited distribution, I doubt that much people bought these. On the other hand, the manufacturer sending the product for measurements to either Amir or Erin is not gonna happen anytime soon, unless he changed his mind since the last statement I shared above.

 

[Tarnith]

Do you know "anyone" who has a Klippel NFS ? This is a very limited distribution, I doubt that much people bought these. On the other hand, the manufacturer sending the product for measurements to either Amir or Erin is not gonna happen anytime soon, unless he changed his mind since the last statement I shared above.

Erin's audio corner and Amir.

The information on these is very minimal for the very high pricing. Would just be curious to see some more details on these.

30ms latency makes them outside of my use for studio however. Mainly curious to see how well integrated the crossover is and what the step response looks like.

 

[HarmonicTHD]

Erin's audio corner and Amir.

The information on these is very minimal for the very high pricing. Would just be curious to see some more details on these.

30ms latency makes them outside of my use for studio however. Mainly curious to see how well integrated the crossover is and what the step response looks like.

Not unless someone sends this speaker to them and as it is a European brand I wouldn’t hold my breath.

However I would stay clear of any brand unable to provide the most basic information characterizing a speaker (at least I couldn’t find anything on their website). I mean they charge 5k and apparently put in some interesting technology and never verified the result? That’s not good engineering practice.

As someone said, for 1k they can send it to Klippel Germany, in case they don’t have the capability. Makes one think if they have to hide something.

 

[Tarnith]

Not unless someone sends this speaker to them and as it is a European brand I wouldn’t hold my breath.

However I would stay clear of any brand unable to provide the most basic information characterizing a speaker (at least I couldn’t find anything on their website). I mean they charge 5k and apparently put in some interesting technology and never verified the result? That’s not good engineering practice.

As someone said, for 1k they can send it to Klippel Germany, in case they don’t have the capability. Makes one think if they have to hide something.

Yeah, 1 year warranty, MFB and not even a dispersion chart/any measures of how well that worked, is a huge red flag to me.

30ms latency is also... extreme. The most aggressive mixed phase linearization I usually do is sub 20ms at the extreme. It looks really cool, I'm interested in what they've done, but it seems outside of ordering one in Europe I'll never know.

 

[Dialectic]

I was about to create a thread for this...

Indeed they "look" like very promising speakers:

Première S

Active Architecture. While any speaker with built-in amplification can be called “active”, Premières fully active architecture goes far beyond the traditional definition of an active loudspeaker. Leveraging modern digital signal processing and proprietary motional feedback technology, Première...

www.acoulab.eu

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Pretty enclosure, high end ADC and DSP, nCore amplification with active crossover... I was very tempted until I mailed them, asking for measurements. In fact I was hesitant between this and my actual Buchardt A500 Signature Edition, which are priced about the same. Here is part of their answer:

It is indeed part of their "philosophy":
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OK... Now I'm wondering, how a 100% newcomer company dare to make such statements ("no bullshit approach", to quote them) and the other way, refuse to provide any, even tiny but of measurements to an interested customer? A 4700€ speaker with a lot of technical buzzwords about the parts it uses, but they refuse to publish the actual result of their work ?!...

This approach + only one year of warranty (remember: 4700€ for active speakers from a company with litteraly zero background)...So many ref flags raised for me...

Srajan from 6moons likes them, so they must be good!