Earwax
Active Member
This Must Be Stated and understood if we as a whole civilization want to continue forward in an upward motion.
AUDIO PURITY
We all Want It, We All Crave it, but it`s a hole that the rabbit gave up on ?
Amirm has stated this was his main driving force for all his time spent explaining in videos and written documentation, so lets give him some support of praise and see if we can`t top up his effort to reach that dream of purity ?
NO body online ever states facts about Harmonic`s being intact and fully present exactly the same as the output file..
Why not state it clearly instead of sound stage, warmth, brightness as it`s the harmonics that put it all together.
After that fact explaining how high and low frequencies differ in loudness would make the most sense.
Example Fosi Audio DS1 vs DS2.
The newer DS2 uses the Cirrus Logic CS43131 DAC chips it appears they are the cause for stripping away harmonics. Of Course circuit design would need to be studied but 3 out of 3 is very questionable.... Keep reading.
The DS1 uses the ES9038Q2M DAC Chips it appears to have ALL the Harmonics present I say appears because I have not measured the output source file and compared it to the DS1 output but it is clearly without a doubt MUCH higher in purity !!!!
DAC`s I have listened to critically that all appears to have ALL harmonics present. SMSL SU1, Topping DX3 Pro Plus, Fosi Audio DS1 ( ES9038Q2M DAC Chips are used in both DS1 & DX3 Pro Plus / AK4493S DAC chips are used in SMSL SU1 )
DAC`s I have Listened to critically that ALL have missing Harmonics. SMSL D100 , SMSL D10, Fosi Audio DS2 ( all these use the Cirrus Logic CS43131 DAC chipset )
Reference tracks using headphones FLAC or Tidal files. even though it`s probably not your music give it a try Disturbed : Conflict only need the 1st minute to compare use the repeating guitar rhythm to clearly hear the missing harmonics.
Track #2 Metallica : And Justice For All. you will notice it is missing harmonics Metallica is notoriously difficult for cheap DAC`s and Cheap amp`s to play with PURITY.
I was using the ATH M50X headphones.
I am, asking. The Masses.
Please consider using some reference data to explain if Harmonics appear to be depleted in your listening tests it would be very helpful to pull us all out of the dumbed-down machine we are being dreamed into....
Amirm has gone to great lengths meaning put much of his personal time into explaining facts with actual DATA and is able to explain it in a clear and precise way that even most average none music oriented people can comprehend. I have watched Hours of his videos on Youtube there is a great podcast if you haven`t seen it`s well worth your time.
It is unfortunate that this loop hole has appeared possibly by a fluke or maybe from crafty sales teams luring people with less experience as it could fool many due to missing harmonics providing the appearance of more separation due to lack of harmonic blending.... Maybe a listening test was done with headphones and those above mentioned people were not musical people.
The DS2 gets extremely high praise and is on the top of the list when in comparison to it`s class of DAC`s, but when you listen to it you clearly will hear it is missing harmonics.
I know this will mean War for some people who may have a financially motivated angle they do exist online sneaky as can be appearing in many forms. Other`s just want to win a fight no matter if sense is made or not.
I do hope for intelligent replies / explanations / insights and no emotional responses.
I mean no disrespect to Amirm but only much thanks and praise, if I can be of assistance in anyway...
If not for Amirm and his data measurements I would have never had the pleasure of owning the Fosi Audio DS1, SMSL SU1, Topping PA5 ii and found a DX3 Pro Plus used on Amazon for $180 Canadian...
Returned the DS2, D100 & D10.
This only came to light after my DS1 died so waiting for the warranty replacement Fosi is sending I bought another DS1 to test the heat performance comparing it to the DS2, D10.
DS1 & DS2 exact same 33C to 35C on the shell, D10 was 37C probably due to that insanely bright blue LED as it was that exact spot the infrared thermometer read the high temp.
D100 was going to stay at my bedside until I listen to it then all hell broke lose, well not exactly but sounded similar
It would be great to see if we could all put our ideas together to form a solution that could work without difficulty and time consuming nonsense.
Thank you for your time and patience.
AUDIO PURITY
We all Want It, We All Crave it, but it`s a hole that the rabbit gave up on ?
Amirm has stated this was his main driving force for all his time spent explaining in videos and written documentation, so lets give him some support of praise and see if we can`t top up his effort to reach that dream of purity ?
NO body online ever states facts about Harmonic`s being intact and fully present exactly the same as the output file..
Why not state it clearly instead of sound stage, warmth, brightness as it`s the harmonics that put it all together.
After that fact explaining how high and low frequencies differ in loudness would make the most sense.
Example Fosi Audio DS1 vs DS2.
The newer DS2 uses the Cirrus Logic CS43131 DAC chips it appears they are the cause for stripping away harmonics. Of Course circuit design would need to be studied but 3 out of 3 is very questionable.... Keep reading.
The DS1 uses the ES9038Q2M DAC Chips it appears to have ALL the Harmonics present I say appears because I have not measured the output source file and compared it to the DS1 output but it is clearly without a doubt MUCH higher in purity !!!!
DAC`s I have listened to critically that all appears to have ALL harmonics present. SMSL SU1, Topping DX3 Pro Plus, Fosi Audio DS1 ( ES9038Q2M DAC Chips are used in both DS1 & DX3 Pro Plus / AK4493S DAC chips are used in SMSL SU1 )
DAC`s I have Listened to critically that ALL have missing Harmonics. SMSL D100 , SMSL D10, Fosi Audio DS2 ( all these use the Cirrus Logic CS43131 DAC chipset )
Reference tracks using headphones FLAC or Tidal files. even though it`s probably not your music give it a try Disturbed : Conflict only need the 1st minute to compare use the repeating guitar rhythm to clearly hear the missing harmonics.
Track #2 Metallica : And Justice For All. you will notice it is missing harmonics Metallica is notoriously difficult for cheap DAC`s and Cheap amp`s to play with PURITY.
I was using the ATH M50X headphones.
I am, asking. The Masses.
Please consider using some reference data to explain if Harmonics appear to be depleted in your listening tests it would be very helpful to pull us all out of the dumbed-down machine we are being dreamed into....
Amirm has gone to great lengths meaning put much of his personal time into explaining facts with actual DATA and is able to explain it in a clear and precise way that even most average none music oriented people can comprehend. I have watched Hours of his videos on Youtube there is a great podcast if you haven`t seen it`s well worth your time.
It is unfortunate that this loop hole has appeared possibly by a fluke or maybe from crafty sales teams luring people with less experience as it could fool many due to missing harmonics providing the appearance of more separation due to lack of harmonic blending.... Maybe a listening test was done with headphones and those above mentioned people were not musical people.
The DS2 gets extremely high praise and is on the top of the list when in comparison to it`s class of DAC`s, but when you listen to it you clearly will hear it is missing harmonics.
I know this will mean War for some people who may have a financially motivated angle they do exist online sneaky as can be appearing in many forms. Other`s just want to win a fight no matter if sense is made or not.
I do hope for intelligent replies / explanations / insights and no emotional responses.
I mean no disrespect to Amirm but only much thanks and praise, if I can be of assistance in anyway...
If not for Amirm and his data measurements I would have never had the pleasure of owning the Fosi Audio DS1, SMSL SU1, Topping PA5 ii and found a DX3 Pro Plus used on Amazon for $180 Canadian...
Returned the DS2, D100 & D10.
This only came to light after my DS1 died so waiting for the warranty replacement Fosi is sending I bought another DS1 to test the heat performance comparing it to the DS2, D10.
DS1 & DS2 exact same 33C to 35C on the shell, D10 was 37C probably due to that insanely bright blue LED as it was that exact spot the infrared thermometer read the high temp.
D100 was going to stay at my bedside until I listen to it then all hell broke lose, well not exactly but sounded similar
It would be great to see if we could all put our ideas together to form a solution that could work without difficulty and time consuming nonsense.
Thank you for your time and patience.
