Hardware digital tone control?

[drummerdimitri]

Does anyone know of a physical product that is placed between the source and the DAC with knobs to change the audio tone in the digital domain?

I'd like to add some coloring to my music as my DAC hasn't got any filters that make any remarkable sound difference so such a product would be ideal to play around with,

 

[HCT-5808]

A RME ADI DAC? They have customizable EQ settings.

 

[drummerdimitri]

A RME ADI DAC? They have customizable EQ settings.

I already have a DAC so t hat's definitely not what I need. I need a DDC with tone controls.

 

[jhenderson0107]

Behringer DEQ2496. Not as simple as tone control "knobs", but far more flexible.

 

[AdamG]

Maybe?

Schiit Audio: Audio Products Designed and Built in Texas and California

www.schiit.com

 

[ahofer]

Behringer DEQ2496. Not as simple as tone control "knobs", but far more flexible.

Auto EQ, $330. Someone should test this!

 

[drummerdimitri]

Maybe?

Schiit Audio: Audio Products Designed and Built in Texas and California

www.schiit.com

That device works in the analogue domain and not the digital one so that's a no go.

 

[drummerdimitri]

Behringer DEQ2496. Not as simple as tone control "knobs", but far more flexible.

Too large and rack mounted pro audio gear is not something I can accommodate on my desktop.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Two things, one is the RME is probably what you want or could be. So you replace a DAC. Not a big deal, plus it is an excellent DAC.

Secondly, don't be afraid of adding one ADC in the middle if it gives you what you want. I get wanting to keep it digital, but good ADC units are good enough you will never know the difference. For that matter following the DAC with an analog device of quality that can do tone controls would be just fine. There are pro devices that do that and not all are rack mounted. Finding one that is remotely controlled might be an issue.

BTW, what budget for this? What is your source of music is it a computer? Software on the computer might be the best way to do this.

 

[drummerdimitri]

Two things, one is the RME is probably what you want or could be. So you replace a DAC. Not a big deal, plus it is an excellent DAC.

Secondly, don't be afraid of adding one ADC in the middle if it gives you what you want. I get wanting to keep it digital, but good ADC units are good enough you will never know the difference. For that matter following the DAC with an analog device of quality that can do tone controls would be just fine. There are pro devices that do that and not all are rack mounted. Finding one that is remotely controlled might be an issue.

BTW, what budget for this? What is your source of music is it a computer? Software on the computer might be the best way to do this.

I already have a Chord Qutest DAC that I chose over the RME and very happy with so it is not as simple as it may seem to just switch the DAC out.

No specific budget in mind but definitely no more than a few hundred bucks.

Yes PC is my main source of music but I would also like to use the EQ with a CD transport so software won't cut it unfortunately.

Strange to see there are so few products that meet my requirements. Schiit audio has three Equalizers and none of them work in the digital domain which I find quite peculiar.

 

[drummerdimitri]

Seems like the miniDSP Flex with digital I/O is exactly what I am looking for. Will need to do more research about it though.

 

[HarmonicTHD]

Seems like the miniDSP Flex with digital I/O is exactly what I am looking for. Will need to do more research about it though.

Have a look

miniDSP Flex

New DAC/DSP with Dirac Live option from miniDSP..... https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/flex I've been tempted by an SHD or SHD Studio for a while, but suspected that they might release something new. I've pre-ordered the balanced version with Dirac.

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[Hayabusa]

I already have a DAC so t hat's definitely not what I need. I need a DDC with tone controls.

A SHD-studio?

 

[mdsimon2]

Yes PC is my main source of music but I would also like to use the EQ with a CD transport so software won't cut it unfortunately.

With the appropriate interface you can use software with physical inputs. See the link in my signature as well as this thread -> https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...lladsp-set-up-instructions-for-newbies.30830/.

CamillaDSP tone controls are easily accessible on any browser connected to your network, see screenshot from an iphone.

Michael

 

[MCH]

With the appropriate interface you can use software with physical inputs. See the link in my signature as well as this thread -> https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...lladsp-set-up-instructions-for-newbies.30830/.

CamillaDSP tone controls are easily accessible on any browser connected to your network, see screenshot from an iphone.

Michael

it is a shame that pycamilladsp does not provide the possibility to set the tone controls. if it did, it would be easy to build physical knobs or sliders. @HenrikEnquist if you happen to read this.... or maybe there is another way?

 

[HenrikEnquist]

The tone controls work by changing the gain of two shelving filters. The same can be done with pycamilladsp. Fetch the active config from the dsp, change the gain of the filters, and send it back to the dsp.

 

[sarumbear]

Does anyone know of a physical product that is placed between the source and the DAC with knobs to change the audio tone in the digital domain?

I'd like to add some coloring to my music as my DAC hasn't got any filters that make any remarkable sound difference so such a product would be ideal to play around with,

It’s like asking for a TV with physical brightness & contrast knobs. i doubt they exist but check McIntosh

 

[MCH]

The tone controls work by changing the gain of two shelving filters. The same can be done with pycamilladsp. Fetch the active config from the dsp, change the gain of the filters, and send it back to the dsp.

Ahhh with get_config_raw() and set_config_raw(value) awesome! Then sure a diy tone control with a couple of knobs could be done.
hmmm .....

 

[HenrikEnquist]

Ahhh with get_config_raw() and set_config_raw(value) awesome!

It's easier to use the get_config() and set_config(), they convert the config to/from yaml for you.

 

[FeddyLost]

Weiss EQ1
Expensive and only AES/EBU
Accuphase DG series