Harbeth speakers

[ThoFi]

Good news. Harbeth will increase the prices again!

 

[ThoFi]

Just a Youtube video about Harbeth crossover parts…

 

[ThoFi]

Some SHL5 in-room FR measurements at listening position.
Of course they are not flat at all.
So why searching for speaker with flat FR?

 

[thewas]

Some SHL5 in-room FR measurements at listening position.
Of course they are not flat at all.
So why searching for speaker with flat FR?

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What is the difference between the red and left curve?

 

[ThoFi]

What is the difference between the red and left curve?

same setup but green with digital room correction

 

[Willem]

Just a Youtube video about Harbeth crossover parts…

Just a snake oil peddler who claims sonic improvements from audiophile components and when a speakers measures very well he starts claiming that the quality of the parts are not good enough.

 

[Willem]

same setup but green with digital room correction

So what you are seeing here is the effect of the room.

 

[thewas]

same setup but green with digital room correction

Thank you, which DRC, target and how measured (for example MMM or single sweep, or sweep average, L or R or both)?

 

[ThoFi]

Thank you, which DRC, target and how measured (for example MMM or single sweep, or sweep average, L or R or both)?

Both speakers, single sweep, using UMIK-I at listening position and REW.

 

[Ingenieur]

Better, much cheaper options than the neutral flat Harbeths and tested and recommended from Amir:
KEF R3
Focal Aria 906
Revel M16
JBl 4309
Elac Debut Reference DBR-62

I have R3's
Just got Harbeth SHL5 plus
Working on optimizing their placement.

imo the Harbeth's sound much more relesdtic, voices and acoustic instruments.

I bought a returned set, open box, yes, more than the KEF, but not as much as you might think. The best I've owned to date. They do not lack bass for the music I listen to.
The KEF are great, but imo as far as realism, the Harbeth's imho by a good margin.

The stuff at 20 kHz is an artifact of how they measured them: Stereophile
I've actual room responses, flat with the tilt.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

I have R3's
Just got Harbeth SHL5 plus
Working on optimizing their placement.

imo the Harbeth's sound much more relesdtic, voices and acoustic instruments.

I bought a returned set, open box, yes, more than the KEF, but not as much as you might think. The best I've owned to date. They do not lack bass for the music I listen to.
The KEF are great, but imo as far as realism, the Harbeth's imho by a good margin.

The stuff at 20 kHz is an artifact of how they measured them: Stereophile
I've actual room responses, flat with the tilt.

These Harbeth works well without subswofer, but the R3 with subs gonna change a lot their presentation

 

[Ingenieur]

These Harbeth works well without subswofer, but the R3 with subs gonna change a lot their presentation

I have a sub, REL T9i
Had to turn it down a good bit with the Harbeth (used tones and pink noise) then listened.

The Harbeths surprised me.


I listen ~ 75-80 dBA SPL
mostly acoustic, very little electronic
Room is large 14 x 34 x 8
Well damped, RT60 Clap IR 0.25 sec, basically ITU listening room spec
Room is quiet, NIOSH app, <30 dBA, C weighted peaks 40 dB

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

I have a sub, REL T9i
Had to turn it down a good bit with the Harbeth (used tones and pink noise) then listened.

The Harbeths surprised me.


I listen ~ 75-80 dBA SPL
mostly acoustic, very little electronic
Room is large 14 x 34 x 8
Well damped, RT60 Clap IR 0.25 sec, basically ITU listening room spec
Room is quiet, NIOSH app, <30 dBA, C weighted peaks 40 dB

Maybe you also like their warm presentation vs the R3

 

[Willem]

What are you doing here other than moaning? I don't know why you were banned from HUG, but thus far you have not contributed anything useful here in your first four posts. To comment on the post you quoted: it is sound advise and also often repeated here on ASR to not overspend on electronics.

 

[ahofer]

Therefore, because you could not refrain, just reveal yourself and this was the purpose of one of my first posts besides moaning lol.

I don’t understand what you are up to here either. Seriousy, not angry or upset, just confused.

 

[ahofer]

I have R3's
Just got Harbeth SHL5 plus
Working on optimizing their placement.

imo the Harbeth's sound much more relesdtic, voices and acoustic instruments.

I bought a returned set, open box, yes, more than the KEF, but not as much as you might think. The best I've owned to date. They do not lack bass for the music I listen to.
The KEF are great, but imo as far as realism, the Harbeth's imho by a good margin.

The stuff at 20 kHz is an artifact of how they measured them: Stereophile
I've actual room responses, flat with the tilt.

I own SHL5+(AE) and love them. Compared them to KEFs/Wilson Sabrina/ProAc/Legacy/Paradigm when I bought them (Early 2019). The Harbeths and the KEF Reference 5 were the best sound of all my auditions, I thought (sighted, lots of time between some comparisons, etc. so flawed). But I’ve been a happy owner ever since. Driven with a March p252 (nCore).

 

[ahofer]

Please hold down your horses, I'm here enjoying the freedom of speech (which I couldn't do on HUG) and I've known Harbeth since they were happy to sell their boxes directly from their factory.

It's the "colluding" and "revealing yourself" comments that have an odd, conspiratorial flavor.

I've been censored by Alan myself, but whatever, it's his show. He's all very "measurements & objective" until you start talking about his product. Probably has to walk a fine line keeping the new top-pay customers comfortably primed. Seen the Harbeth Facebook group? Just a cesspool of misinformation.

 

[Ingenieur]

Free speech is only worth something to the speaker. To most others, noise.

If bloviating makes you feel better, bloviate on. lol

 

[Willem]

Seen the Harbeth Facebook group? Just a cesspool of misinformation.

I was banned by Paul Yoo's unofficial Harbeth Facebook group for arguing for science and proper engineering, and for posting links to measurements of the exotic snakeoil electronics favoured there.

 

[BDWoody]

Therefore, because you could not refrain, just reveal yourself and this was the purpose of one of my first posts besides moaning lol.

I can't refrain either...

Why are you here? Seems like a lot of whining to introduce yourself. Try to leave your forum baggage where it came from.

Welcome...?