Gustard X16 Owners feedback...

[Dannemand]

NOS mode is intended to be used with a media player that does upsampling to at least 192 kHz. It disables oversampling in the DAC so that you can have more control over how upsampling is performed in your media player. Ideally, you would use NOS mode with something like HQPlayer. It actually sounds brilliant with the right software, but if you are not doing upsampling in software, you should leave NOS mode disabled.

Exactly!

I can understand why DAC manufacturers leave out a NOS option, even when the chip supports it. Too many users think it's just a feature to turn on without understanding what it is for: "I don't want unnecessary processing of my music, just the original source". Understandable.

Oversampling is an integral part of the Delta-Sigma process. Let the chip do its work. OR do it in software, as pointed out.

Edit: Check the graphs in this post earlier in the thread. They show the result of NOS very clearly.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...gustard-x16-owners-feedback.20055/post-667963

 

[sthaus]

Did you ever figure this out? being able to select 32/768 in win 10. My laptop tops out at 32/384. Thanks

Yeah, it's from software control (HQplayer, Roon, Foobar2k ...) by Window's default, I only can see 32/384 option same like yours.
If I played on Groove with PC-EQ with 32/384 .. sound quality even better than on Roon in deep and wide at 768khz .. not sure why... may be the my setting EQ does the job, it wont work for Roon and HQ coz they have their own EQ setting.

 

[sthaus]

Amazon

I ordered from Amazon too, they pay back money after I sent msg to return ... but i havent received the return parcel yet from them (for like 3 weeks already) .. i guess they might give the dac free for me or else !! lol

 

[1lifeliveit]

Hi, I just received my x16 today. I turn it on, and theres no display. However, the DAC itself is working fine. Any ideas on how to turn the display on?
I've tried the button on the unit both long press and single click. Nothing

 

[sthaus]

Hi, I just received my x16 today. I turn it on, and theres no display. However, the DAC itself is working fine. Any ideas on how to turn the display on?
I've tried the button on the unit both long press and single click. Nothing

It's just on .. return it if you found any abnormal operations, my rekon

 

[1lifeliveit]

It's just on .. return it if you found any abnormal operations, my rekon

Yep. Its going back. What a PITA...its the price you pay for inexpensive technology I suppose

 

[kopczas]

Hello,
I`ve just upgraded firmware. Now it`s ok. No strange noises in silence
I wanted to some pix during the operation but I`ve realized that Gustard`s manual is precise. Programming took 5 seconds.
All you need except programmer and keys is soldering iron and 4 pins.

 

[Dennis_FL]

soldering iron? Where's the video?

 

[kopczas]

soldering iron? Where's the video?

You need to solder those to the PCB.

 

[Dennis_FL]

No 4 pin push on connector?

 

[kopczas]

There is no connector on stock pcb.

 

[vco1]

All you need except programmer and keys is soldering iron and 4 pins.

So you're buying a defective DAC and not only need to buy/find a specialized device to fix this, but need to do some soldering work on top of that. I find it pretty remarkable that people are still buying from this company.

 

[kopczas]

So you're buying

So I`ve BOUGHT device with software defect which I could not know about, with took 5 minutes to fix. Ask apple for solution when you find defect.

 

[sojer2005]

I have zero interest in dsd... I was thinking about upgrading firmware just for fun, but this soldering thing maybe to much for me ... is it really necessary?

 

[vco1]

So I`ve BOUGHT device with software defect which I could not know about, with took 5 minutes to fix. Ask apple for solution when you find defect.

They wont ask you to use a soldeirng iron. Come on, it's not a DIY dac, isn't it?
It comes across like this is 'normal procedure' to fix a defective device. In my book it ain't.

 

[kopczas]

is it really necessary?

If you manage to make stable connection somehow between programmer and chip, it is not necessary but recommended I think.

 

[kopczas]

It comes across like this is 'normal procedure'

Well, for me it is.
You can send it to distributor or manufacturer if you`re not able to do it yourself.
Another idea is that you take front panel itself to your local smartphone or gsm repair guy so he could solder those 4 pins in 10 seconds.

But you have your point, first I thought that they did not intend x16 to upgradeable, but they left unpopulated 4 pin port on the pcb so at the end, upgrade of firmware is possible.

 

[Dennis_FL]

I ordered from Amazon too, they pay back money after I sent msg to return ... but i havent received the return parcel yet from them (for like 3 weeks already) .. i guess they might give the dac free for me or else !! lol

Amazon expects you to return it in the original box. I don't believe they send you a return parcel.

 

[Dennis_FL]

So I`ve BOUGHT device with software defect which I could not know about, with took 5 minutes to fix. Ask apple for solution when you find defect.

I thought the programmer came with jumper wires and push-on connectors......

I'm not adverse to soldering, just took me by surprise.

 

[kopczas]

I thought the programmer came with jumper wires and push-on connectors......

Mine came with wires. but you have to make some kind of connection to the pcb.