GR Research Speaker Upgrade Review (Sierra-2EX V2) [Video]

[amirm]

I watched it. There is so much I can address in there. Should I do a video and do that?

 

[beeface]

Only watched three minutes of the response video. I feel like he’s already lost the argument when he’s resorting to misrepresentations like “those guys think coat hangers are an acceptable as interconnects” (paraphrased)

 

[amirm]

Interesting bit is that he again admits he doesn't listen to the speaker. Yet, the usual commentator keep saying listening is all that matters! I suspect hardly anyone is watching past the first few minutes and hence missed that part at almost the end of the video.

 

[beeface]

I watched it. There is so much I can address in there. Should I do a video and do that?

Life is too precious to get caught in long back and forths, but if you feel like you need to clear the air, I’m sure there’s no harm in one last mic drop video

 

[Power Pop 23]

I watched it. There is so much I can address in there. Should I do a video and do that?

Yes,

But only while some other testing is running concurrently !

 

[Ropeburn]

Interesting bit is that he again admits he doesn't listen to the speaker. Yet, the usual commentator keep saying listening is all that matters! I suspect hardly anyone is watching past the first few minutes and hence missed that part at almost the end of the video.

It's a bit smelly... maybe he does it intentionally? I'm sure as hell not watching all that drivel, so it will be easy for him and fans to say "you didn't watch even watch it" to anyone who didn't. I mean come on, feature film length...

If it's really intentional, then very devious. Because nominally, "you didn't even watch/listen" is an EXCELLENT argument.

 

[Paul7777x]

I watched it. There is so much I can address in there. Should I do a video and do that?

I wouldn’t.

What’s the point in giving the idiot any further credence by appearing to take him seriously?

His ‘followers’ don’t care about rational engineering and won’t be swayed, and the rest of us already know he’s an egotistical tit.

Your time, imo, would be better spent doing something worthwhile. Anything else in fact.

 

[Power Pop 23]

I am unfamiliar with how Google compensates content creators.

Is there an economic rationale for asking viewers to spend 78+ minutes watching this video ?

Those ASR members who do are 'taking one for the team'.

Perhaps a link to this video should be posted in this thread.....

Worst movie ever?

I had a late lunch and watched about an hours worth of The Wild, Wild Planet (1965). Wow, this was bad, has to rank among the worse ever. I'd place Plan 9 from Outer Space above this flick.

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[TRC2]

Danny responds to Amir. And does a pretty good job explaining what he does and poking some holes in Amir’s argument. Danny also pulled receipts of Amir and his website supporting Danny’s perspective of what impedance swings, mismatches and out of phase or current leading and lagging voltage and its affects on SQ. I watched both videos because I want to see the arguments of each and make my own opinions on how they frame their perspectives. They both make great points that are educational. I don’t care about either guy. I don’t have a dog in this fight. I like opposing viewpoints because I will never blindly follow any person.

 

[RickS]

I can totally live with no summary this time. Let the games begin

Not going to find me wasting more than an hour listening to Danny spewing. I did check the end and the huckster plugs his tube connectors. You just gotta believe folks…

Is a lot like how his next speaker is always the greatest ever. Saw someone asked about his updated Encore vs the Maddie and clearly had not put any thought into positioning them relatively. They are all next level and will lead you to audio nirvana!

 

[Beave]

Danny responds to Amir. And does a pretty good job explaining what he does and poking some holes in Amir’s argument. Danny also pulled receipts of Amir and his website supporting Danny’s perspective of what impedance swings, mismatches and out of phase or current leading and lagging voltage and its affects on SQ. I watched both videos because I want to see the arguments of each and make my own opinions on how they frame their perspectives. They both make great points that are educational. I don’t care about either guy. I don’t have a dog in this fight. I like opposing viewpoints because I will never blindly follow any person.

I find these claims highly unlikely, unless you're one of the gullible people described previously who doesn't know the difference between Danny's BS and actual engineering.

 

[DMill]

hence missed that part at almost the end of the video

For Gods sake, please don’t ask me to watch the whole thing.

 

[TRC2]

I wouldn’t.

What’s the point in giving the idiot any further credence by appearing to take him seriously?

His ‘followers’ don’t care about rational engineering and won’t be swayed, and the rest of us already know he’s an egotistical tit.

Your time, imo, would be better spent doing something worthwhile. Anything else in fact.

I think that’s what soft minded people would do. What’s wrong with proving your case. Danny brought some points that debunk Amir’s perspective. Amir if Danny is wrong or you are wrong I want to know and see the proof of why anyone would be wrong. This is for the peoples education. Imagine being on debate team take your turn. The opposing goes and you have the opportunity to disprove but you go naw i don’t want to go. Number 1 you allow people that are seeking knowledge to potentially believe things that aren’t true. If you have receipts and proof then share. Not everyone out here in audio land are blind loyalists to GR-Research or ASR. We might just want to make good informed decisions.

 

[Ropeburn]

I think that’s what soft minded people would do. What’s wrong with proving your case. Danny brought some points that debunk Amir’s perspective. Amir if Danny is wrong or you are wrong I want to know and see the proof of why anyone would be wrong. This is for the peoples education. Imagine being on debate team take your turn. The opposing goes and you have the opportunity to disprove but you go naw i don’t want to go. Number 1 you allow people that are seeking knowledge to potentially believe things that aren’t true. If you have receipts and proof then share. Not everyone out here in audio land are blind loyalists to GR-Research or ASR. We might just want to make good informed decisions.

Seriously? You bring up debate teams while Danny would be banned from any within one or two minutes into the video, for those uncalled for insults?

He wouldn't last a minute in any debate club. Instaban for not following the very basic rules.

 

[TRC2]

I find these claims highly unlikely, unless you're one of the gullible people described previously who doesn't know the difference between Danny's BS and actual engineering.

Blind loyalists are always the 1st sheep over the ledge. You find it “unlikely” For Danny make any good valid points, would you be man enough to admit that he made a good point or that he was right? Hmm I think Amir made a lot of good points in his video. And that’s why I watched Danny’s video cause I wanted to see his response.

 

[TRC2]

Seriously? You bring up debate teams while Danny would be banned from any within one or two minutes into the video, for those uncalled for insults?

He wouldn't last a minute in any debate club. Instaban for not following the very basic rules.

Stop being emotional you’re not involved. It’s okay to be objective. No one is always right.

 

[Ropeburn]

 

[TRC2]

I watched it. There is so much I can address in there. Should I do a video and do that?

Yes you should. I think he made a good point about you not using spectral decay. Maybe it doesn’t matter but you should share why it doesn’t matter and give the evidence of such. And we will decide for ourselves if your argument is sufficient

 

[amirm]

Danny also pulled receipts of Amir and his website supporting Danny’s perspective of what impedance swings, mismatches and out of phase or current leading and lagging voltage and its affects on SQ.

He did no such thing. He *claims* AI said it pulled such quotes out of ASR. But he neither shows the prompt he used, or the response.

I repeated his experiment, with exact question he said he asked: "audible effects of electrical shift of phase in speaker's impedance"

This is the answer Gemini gave:

Notice how the reference is NOT to ASR but Parts Express. If you click on that link, it will take you to a short, random thread about this topic with hardly any of the above discussed.

If you highlight the link then it will give you one reference to ASR among three others. That link is to a post by Don:

Variable impedance - what's the audible impact

Stupid question time: Is it true or not that load dependence of amplifiers impacts frequency response only at higher frequencies? I ask because the subject of this thread is "what's the audible impact" of "variable speaker impedance." And as we know from other threads, a major bone of...

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He was answering this question: "Stupid question time: Is it true or not that load dependence of amplifiers impacts frequency response only at higher frequencies?"

Don's answer starts with:

Simple answer is "no" but of course things are rarely that simple. That really relates to two things: how a speaker's (load) impedance changes over frequency, and how an amplifier's output impedance changes over frequency.

This is precisely what I said in my video. Which is, this is only an issue if your amplifier has high output impedance, i.e. a tube amp. Solid state amplifiers have very low output impedance with essentially no change with frequency. Exception is class D amps that don't have post filter feedback.

So nothing in what AI generated is backed up by what is posted on ASR in the way Danny reading it. Indeed, I asked AI about this:

I have more on this but I finished my AI inquiry by giving Google Danny's video and asking this question in context:

Pretty damning I would say.

Finally, and this is really stupid but I see you are falling for it as well, ASR is not me. Ton of topics are discussed and naysayers come here argue points like what Danny says. Summarizing ASR as a forum does not at mean that what I state is wrong.

 

[amirm]

I think he made a good point about you not using spectral decay.

Spectral decay can easily be manipulated to show what you want. Let me show you a precise example. I reviewed Danny's LGK speaker.

In there, I showed my usual waterfall, showing many resonances:

In sharp contrast, Danny shows this:

Where did all the resonance go? He hardly shows any. Well, I too can generate that with my data:

All I had to do is change the parameters.

Frequency response already tells us there are resonances. It is all those little peaks. My first graph shows them lingering. But if you raise the noise floor, or reduce resolution, they go away.