GR Research LGK 2.0 Kit Speaker Review (video)

[DanielT]

What is silly in the context of this thread is that Danny doesn't even specify distance for his one dB number! A speaker is a heck of a lot louder if you stick your ear next to the driver versus sitting 6 feet away.

General tip, the thread also contains links to other threads that cover, roughly, the same topic:

How much power does an amplifier need with this type of range of dynamic music

Feel free to use this calculator. Add sensitivity to the speaker and then tell which effect you have chosen and why. Weigh in that you want some headroom. http://www.mh-audio.nl/Calculators/REAP.html You can select music from this list. Or something else, but in that case tell us how you...

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Danny maintains with his BS, ..now the small LGK 2.0 is better than:
(or what the hell he means)

Edit:
But ok, he's right, they are not in LGK 2.0 class, compared with...
Or Danny is smart. He says: Not in this performace class (and thats what?) ? and play louder for sure but talk about shuffling the cards with a statement.It's, seriously, just Danny waffling....
Which speakers do what and not, and which are also good? Do you see? He suggests that his is great, better, compared but also bad, under conditions like eh..and so on.Just waffle.

What is better? Is green a better color than blue? If I like my home-made pasta dishes better than the top-Italian restaurant so then? As a DIY you can, of course, think your own rubbish is the best in the world but Danny ?! He sells on a commercial basis.

 

[Astrozombie]

I'm no speaker engineer but if you have a desktop-mini isn't it usually better to have a front port?

 

[DualTriode]

Call the LGK 2.0 road kill. throw the carcass on the fire and let the LGK RIP.

 

[dfuller]

General tip, the thread also contains links to other threads that cover, roughly, the same topic:

How much power does an amplifier need with this type of range of dynamic music

Feel free to use this calculator. Add sensitivity to the speaker and then tell which effect you have chosen and why. Weigh in that you want some headroom. http://www.mh-audio.nl/Calculators/REAP.html You can select music from this list. Or something else, but in that case tell us how you...

audiosciencereview.com

Danny maintains with his BS, ..now the small LGK 2.0 is better than:
(or what the hell he means)

View attachment 213993

Edit:
But ok, he's right, they are not in LGK 2.0 class, compared with...
Or Danny is smart. He says: Not in this performace class (and thats what?) ? and play louder for sure but talk about shuffling the cards with a statement.It's, seriously, just Danny waffling....
Which speakers do what and not, and which are also good? Do you see? He suggests that his is great, better, compared but also bad, under conditions like eh..and so on.Just waffle.

What is better? Is green a better color than blue? If I like my home-made pasta dishes better than the top-Italian restaurant so then? As a DIY you can, of course, think your own rubbish is the best in the world but Danny ?! He sells on a commercial basis.

That's my comment, he's in complete denial. I can hear the driver complaining *bad* on his clips. That same gargly voice thing.

 

[DanielT]

That's my comment, he's in complete denial. I can hear the driver complaining *bad* on his clips. That same gargly voice thing.

Danny has actually made perfectly ok speakers. For their size and price, these are ok:

GR Research X-LS Encore Kit Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research X-LS Encore DIY Kit speaker. It was kindly put together by member @Rick Sykora. You can see his build thread here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/build-of-gr-research-x-ls-encore.14312/ The bare kit...

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BUT with the LGK 2.0 he ended up completely wrong. Especially the price, over $1000 for a pair of small speakers with only 3 inch broadband elements in. Thats insane!

I think this is more about psychology and personality than speaker construction. Danny is a typical alpha male. He does not like to be questioned and criticized. Although the criticism is constructive. Typically male I never admit that I have done any wrong behavior. Then he enters a typically alpha male defensive position/mode and acts like a stubborn red pig and then publishes NEW videos where he once again praises his LGK 2.0.
Okay, that was speculation on my part. Maybe even waffle on my part, but I do not sell my waffle. That's the difference between me and Danny.

Edit:
Yes, I realize the irony is that I stubbornly continue to post in this thread. Everything that needs to be said about these LGK 2.0 has already been said. But I'm stubborn, but above all I get annoyed at Danny's attitude.

 

[oscar_dziki]

Video review of my recently tested GR Research LGK 2.0 DIY Kit speaker. There is bonus content here including recording of the sound coming out of the speaker and some additional graphs (which were also added to the text review):

@amirm I'd love to see a review of one of dannys subwoofers. I am really interested in this accelerometer technology, combined with an open baffle. Please please, please.

 

[DanielT]

@amirm I'd love to see a review of one of dannys subwoofers. I am really interested in this accelerometer technology, combined with an open baffle. Please please, please.

Tip:

About accelerometer technology:

Motional Feedback (MFB)?

It seems to be a smart system, right? Common in constructions nowadays? In the art of audio sound reproduction it is well-known that the dynamic loudspeaker is more nonlinear and generates more distortion than all the other system components combined. This is particularly true at low...

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You can buy accelerometers, see:

Motional Feedback Audio.

All things servo. StarBass drivers & accelerometers, loop electronics and cash & carry Little/One and Grown/Up sales via servolabs.nl

piratelogic.nl

 

[audiosaurusrex]

Great Video. I was almost going for the GR Upgrade for my Focal Aria 906's($460) and glad this came out. I am now questioning what improvements could be had? If Amir would be willing to measure them, I'd gladly ship them out.

 

[Andysu]

That's the JBL 250Ti. I love them. I sold those too. Fantastic midrange and mid bass with a real nice thump. Top end was sharp too. All around they where superb.

yeah , i think it was those and may have been those and some other ones that was floorstanders , not sure of model , let me google . XPL 200 , just curious of them . i don't need them , just curious .

 

[Doodski]

yeah , i think it was those and may have been those and some other ones that was floorstanders , not sure of model , let me google . XPL 200 , just curious of them . i don't need them , just curious .

WowowzerZ! That JBL XPL 200 looks fantastic. Big Ti midrange and the Ti tweeter too. I never sold this model for some reason I don't know why.

Also there was this tower.

Then the Ti5000 model.

These I am guessing where early 1980's but I could be wrong.

 

[petezapie]

General tip, the thread also contains links to other threads that cover, roughly, the same topic:

How much power does an amplifier need with this type of range of dynamic music

Feel free to use this calculator. Add sensitivity to the speaker and then tell which effect you have chosen and why. Weigh in that you want some headroom. http://www.mh-audio.nl/Calculators/REAP.html You can select music from this list. Or something else, but in that case tell us how you...

audiosciencereview.com

Danny maintains with his BS, ..now the small LGK 2.0 is better than:
(or what the hell he means)

View attachment 213993

Edit:
But ok, he's right, they are not in LGK 2.0 class, compared with...
Or Danny is smart. He says: Not in this performace class (and thats what?) ? and play louder for sure but talk about shuffling the cards with a statement.It's, seriously, just Danny waffling....
Which speakers do what and not, and which are also good? Do you see? He suggests that his is great, better, compared but also bad, under conditions like eh..and so on.Just waffle.

What is better? Is green a better color than blue? If I like my home-made pasta dishes better than the top-Italian restaurant so then? As a DIY you can, of course, think your own rubbish is the best in the world but Danny ?! He sells on a commercial basis.

he constantly prattles on about other peoples speakers and how they have low value but this takes the cake, spending $1k for this assembled is a joke

 

[Doodski]

he constantly prattles on about other peoples speakers and how they have low value but this takes the cake, spending $1k for this assembled is a joke

I think I heard him call them beautiful like 3 times or so...

 

[petezapie]

Danny has actually made perfectly ok speakers. For their size and price, these are ok:

GR Research X-LS Encore Kit Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research X-LS Encore DIY Kit speaker. It was kindly put together by member @Rick Sykora. You can see his build thread here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/build-of-gr-research-x-ls-encore.14312/ The bare kit...

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BUT with the LGK 2.0 he ended up completely wrong. Especially the price, over $1000 for a pair of small speakers with only 3 inch broadband elements in. Thats insane!

I think this is more about psychology and personality than speaker construction. Danny is a typical alpha male. He does not like to be questioned and criticized. Although the criticism is constructive. Typically male I never admit that I have done any wrong behavior. Then he enters a typically alpha male defensive position/mode and acts like a stubborn red pig and then publishes NEW videos where he once again praises his LGK 2.0.
Okay, that was speculation on my part. Maybe even waffle on my part, but I do not sell my waffle. That's the difference between me and Danny.

Edit:
Yes, I realize the irony is that I stubbornly continue to post in this thread. Everything that needs to be said about these LGK 2.0 has already been said. But I'm stubborn, but above all I get annoyed at Danny's attitude.

totally agree. The reality is Dany has to double down with his fiction because he has bought a bunch of inventory of the giant killer 3" driver.

 

[dfuller]

Great Video. I was almost going for the GR Upgrade for my Focal Aria 906's($460) and glad this came out. I am now questioning what improvements could be had? If Amir would be willing to measure them, I'd gladly ship them out.

The Aria 906s? Amir did. They don't need any upgrades - well, outside of just making them active, because passive speakers in this day and age are a crappy solution.

totally agree. The reality is Dany has to double down with his fiction because he has bought a bunch of inventory of the giant killer 3" driver.

That driver would be totally acceptable to use in a 3 way system as a midrange. Figure 8+3+1, cross around 400/2.5k.

 

[tedmingo]

And while you're at it, don't forget to pick up the $500 speaker cable that will magically transform your music listening experience.

 

[DanielT]

And while you're at it, don't forget to pick up the $500 speaker cable that will magically transform your music listening experience.

Unnecessarily expensive that does not add anything, other than a hole in the wallet.
(yes, I know you wrote it ironically. )

Edit:
Thought to register on Danny's website. To nag a little. It did not work.

 

[EXIF68]

I like radio, I actually had 2 of those in the past for areas not meant for critical listening and thought it's OK sounding, better than other size comparable bluetooth speakers, but they both died quite early I thought, and sometime, unfortunately for inexpensive things like that, I don't like the modern Idea of stuff being disposable but it's simply just sadly not worth the time you would put to repair them. They are in a box somewhere.

my model one is now about 20 years old and is still working fine for background music and for news listening during breakfast in the morning at the kitchen

 

[Darwin]

Video review of my recently tested GR Research LGK 2.0 DIY Kit speaker. There is bonus content here including recording of the sound coming out of the speaker and some additional graphs (which were also added to the text review):

Yeesh, I subscribe to his you tube channel and was thinking of getting this. Now unsubscribed.

 

[Andysu]

so gr is talking about dogs barking ?

 

[Bruce Morgen]

so gr is talking about dogs barking ?

That's of a piece with his calling measurement-oriented folks "flat earthers." He knows that well informed customers will never buy from him, so why not baselessly insult them to the cheers of his adoring cult, er, I mean crowd?