Good HiFi from China and Taiwan?

[DanielT]

That's the question. I'm meeting Iceberg's wishes. Is he right .... or not?

HiFi designed, created and manufactured in China.

Screenshot from this thread:

Good German Hifi ?!

The usual suspects mentioned yet ? Senheiser AKG , Canton and for vintage stuff Braun , Grundig ? Afaik Bosch did pro video stuff as “ Bosch Fernseh” All of those, yes.

audiosciencereview.com

 

[VintageFlanker]

HiFi designed, created and manufactured in China

What the... You've been a member since 2020. Why are you even wondering?

PLENTY.

 

[DanielT]

What the... You've been a member since 2020. Why are you even wondering?

PLENTY.

Well, I know there are a lot. Topping is the first thing I think of.

They are on the move, China in terms of HiFi.

Edit:
But a lot is about opening the eyes of manufacturers you do not know. Hence this thread. To tip each other.

 

[VintageFlanker]

Is he right

Nope.

For the most famous:

Cayin
HiFiMan
Shanling
Hidizs
Hiby
iBasso
Fiio
Audio-GD
S.M.S.L (+Sabaj, VMV, Loxjie)
Holo Audio
Gustard
Denafrips
Topping
Matrix Audio
Aune Audio

And many many more...

 

[Katji]

Edifier fan checking in here.
S3000Pro "poor man's LS50W", approx. 1/3rd of the price.

iirc, He said 100 million speakers sold.
[ I suppose that will get some reaction. If so, I'm ready for you. ]

 

[antcollinet]

Minidsp

 

[Matias]

Moondrop
Thieaudio (not sure)

 

[DanielT]

Undoubtedly many interesting manufacturers, many good products. But heavier HiFi from China? By heavier I mean literally heavier. Larger speakers for example.

I suspect that the shipping cost makes the pay off too low, although hm there are many other manufacturers that produce their larger speaker models in China, right? I know that KEF manufactures speakers in China but not their largest models, if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's on the lighter (by weight,, plus small physical size) electronic side, DAC for example, that the potential for Chinese brands is?

I'm mostly speculating now. I could be wrong.

 

[Frgirard]

Undoubtedly many interesting manufacturers, many good products. But heavier HiFi from China? By heavier I mean literally heavier. Larger speakers for example.

I suspect that the shipping cost makes the pay off too low, although hm there are many other manufacturers that produce their larger speaker models in China, right? I know that KEF manufactures speakers in China but not their largest models, if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's on the lighter (by weight,, plus small physical size) electronic side, DAC for example, that the potential for Chinese brands is?

I'm mostly speculating now. I could be wrong.

Taïwan and usher https://www.usheraudio.com.tw/speaker/
The shipping cost is not an issue. Usa speakers do so why not China speakers.
The high end has no cost issue.

 

[DanielT]

Taïwan and usher https://www.usheraudio.com.tw/speaker/
The shipping cost is not an issue. Usa speakers do so why not China speakers.
The high end has no cost issue.

You're right. Then I'm probably wrong in my speculations about shipping costs.

 

[Matias]

Undoubtedly many interesting manufacturers, many good products. But heavier HiFi from China? By heavier I mean literally heavier. Larger speakers for example.

I suspect that the shipping cost makes the pay off too low, although hm there are many other manufacturers that produce their larger speaker models in China, right? I know that KEF manufactures speakers in China but not their largest models, if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's on the lighter (by weight,, plus small physical size) electronic side, DAC for example, that the potential for Chinese brands is?

I'm mostly speculating now. I could be wrong.

This Audio-GD mono is 70 kg each amp, so maybe it applies?

audio-gd Stellar product

But yes, I agree, the majority are smaller and lighter products from China. Maybe because new entrants focus on new markets, where desktop and headphones/IEMs are booming, and selling online through Aliexpress is an easy way, along with tons of other electronics and gadgets sold there.

 

[Matias]

Xindak also makes traditional large and heavy amplifiers.

Xindak Products

 

[DanielT]

This Audio-GD mono is 70 kg each amp, so maybe it applies?

audio-gd Stellar product

But yes, I agree, the majority are smaller and lighter products from China. Maybe because new entrants focus on new markets, where desktop and headphones/IEMs are booming, and selling online through Aliexpress are an easy way, along with tons of other electronics and gadgets sold there.

If we take headphones:

"Global headphone unit shipments has grown considerably from 2013 to 2020 . In 2020, 549 million headphones were shipped worldwide and there seems to be a positive growth despite the impact of COVID-19 with a 14 percent growth in value."

Global headphone unit shipments 2022 | Statista

Global headphone unit shipments has grown considerably from 2013 to 2022.

www.statista.com

By the way:

"In the third quarter of 2021, the global market share of Baidu, the largest Chinese smart speaker manufacturer, amounted to over 13 percent. Baidu and Alibaba are among the largest smart speaker market players inside and outside of China."

China: global market share of major Chinese smart speaker vendors 2021 | Statista

In the third quarter of 2021, the global market share of Baidu, the largest Chinese smart speaker manufacturer, amounted to over 13 percent.

www.statista.com

 

[Matias]

Opera / Consonance also makes large amps and speakers.

Opera-The Opera audio Co.,Ltd

 

[Ilkless]

Not forgetting Line Magnetic

 

[Frgirard]

The best Chinese speaker (According to its designer)

 

[Iceberg]

Pardon the interruption.... It's lovely to see all the brand name paparazzi advertising their favorite red brand, but....

Wasn't there a criteria for this thread?

DESIGNED
CREATED
MANUFACTURED

Anyone know anything about these companies other than having their laptop stickers?

 

[Doodski]

This Audio-GD mono is 70 kg each amp, so maybe it applies?
audio-gd Stellar product

It certainly appears impressive. No OP amps and no capacitors in signal path. I would love to see a ASR review of this bad boy.

 

[fordiebianco]

Undoubtedly many interesting manufacturers, many good products. But heavier HiFi from China? By heavier I mean literally heavier. Larger speakers for example.

I suspect that the shipping cost makes the pay off too low, although hm there are many other manufacturers that produce their larger speaker models in China, right? I know that KEF manufactures speakers in China but not their largest models, if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's on the lighter (by weight,, plus small physical size) electronic side, DAC for example, that the potential for Chinese brands is?

I'm mostly speculating now. I could be wrong.

SoundArtist
Aurum Cantus

 

[DanielT]

You're right. Then I'm probably wrong in my speculations about shipping costs.

I'm removing probably.

I was wrong in my speculations.