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Seeing exposed drive units spoils the illusion for me to large extent, so D with an additional cover for the midrange.

Also agree with @hardisj re wire management.
That's why you get dark speakers and listen with the lights down.
 

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A and D. If you do A, some people will want a cover, which is essentially like D. If you do D with a simple design, no one will care.
 

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Though, I do have a question... it looks like the power port will be about midway on the speaker. Will you have a wire holder built-in to this speaker? Or is there a way to put this at the base of the speaker? I think this is such a nice design that I'd hate to "ruin" it by having a few wires dangling off the back; especially from that high up. For context, with most bookshelf speakers you can purchase stands to run the wires inside.
I agree. I still like the idea of the external amp (as with the M1). It is one less wire to run to the speaker and makes repairs of the electronics easier and allows one to upgrade to the amp with more power. But if you build them in, it would be great to have the connections at the bottom or some other way to keep the installation neat.
 

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There is some (aesthetic) design refinement going on... what do you guys think?

Variant A:
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Variant BView attachment 171047

Variant C

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Variant D
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Variant D+ (along with different patterns)
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D+ right then
D right
Power socket at bottom in same minimalist style as you have rendered

Sort of like genelec 6040R but prettier 1B7FA9FE-91DE-4B31-9DCC-8EE5ECC5800C.jpeg95200233-0D0E-49C3-B53F-88D9CF0BA83A.jpeg
It would be a hit with interior designer types. To be able to have very short cord to power socket in the floor. Or have power cable under flooring.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback and your suggestions!

I sat down with the team and we decided to go with A, so that you can see all the drivers. There will be a cover similar to B as an accessories later on for people who prefer to hide the woofer below the horizontal groove – that gives it a more non-technical look.

As for the cable management that @hardisj, @jhaider & @Glen20 asked for, I'm afraid there won't be a solution right from the start. All positions of the connectors are set and can't be moved. The only option would be some sort of cover for guide the cables.

I still like the idea of the external amp (as with the M1). It is one less wire to run to the speaker and makes repairs of the electronics easier and allows one to upgrade to the amp with more power.
Looking back on Model M1 while in home/non-professional use, people didn't like any external components. We had to relocate the electronics because it didn't fit into the speakers cabinet – but with Model M3 it did, so we took the chance to integrate it. We could also go for an external option again, but that would lead to 2x separate enclosures that are also bigger/higher (probably 1.5 U each).
 

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Thanks a lot for the feedback and your suggestions!

I sat down with the team and we decided to go with A, so that you can see all the drivers. There will be a cover similar to B as an accessories later on for people who prefer to hide the woofer below the horizontal groove – that gives it a more non-technical look.

As for the cable management that @hardisj, @jhaider & @Glen20 asked for, I'm afraid there won't be a solution right from the start. All positions of the connectors are set and can't be moved. The only option would be some sort of cover for guide the cables.


Looking back on Model M1 while in home/non-professional use, people didn't like any external components. We had to relocate the electronics because it didn't fit into the speakers cabinet – but with Model M3 it did, so we took the chance to integrate it. We could also go for an external option again, but that would lead to 2x separate enclosures that are also bigger/higher (probably 1.5 U each).
Roland isn't it about time a pair of M1's make their way to Seattle, so Amir can do a comprehensive review? Surely by now supply chain issues have abated sufficiently to allow you to spare a pair long enough for a good examination.
 

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Regarding the look not D IMO . The vent slats make it look like som HVAC thingy blue leds would add to that look :)

Speaking of that if you have a led somewhere avoid a bright blue one , looks garish and cheap . A soft muted green is nicer.
 

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It was years since I was excited for a speaker, everything "new" is just new take on decades old ideas, yet now suddenly this and new gradients make me feel that things are finally moving forward, active speakers are long time standard in music production and now its finally coming to home high-end hi-fi systems.
 

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Thanks a lot for the feedback and your suggestions!

I sat down with the team and we decided to go with A, so that you can see all the drivers. There will be a cover similar to B as an accessories later on for people who prefer to hide the woofer below the horizontal groove – that gives it a more non-technical look.

As for the cable management that @hardisj, @jhaider & @Glen20 asked for, I'm afraid there won't be a solution right from the start. All positions of the connectors are set and can't be moved. The only option would be some sort of cover for guide the cables.


Looking back on Model M1 while in home/non-professional use, people didn't like any external components. We had to relocate the electronics because it didn't fit into the speakers cabinet – but with Model M3 it did, so we took the chance to integrate it. We could also go for an external option again, but that would lead to 2x separate enclosures that are also bigger/higher (probably 1.5 U each).
Thanks for the info Roland. Your decisions sound great with your explanation.
Prior to your reply ( sitting in my armchair) I thought it would have been easy to have a internal “extension” cord from the Pascal board to the bottom of the unit.
I saw an earlier render of your internal structure which I scribbled on.
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BUT once I had a look at the Pascal Electronic boards. I can see how complicated they are and how stupid I was!!
The only thing missing from those Pascal boards is a headphone amplifier and a turntable (joke)
 

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The directivity control of the M3 is very good.

I wonder how low it would go in room against a back wall? Possible to use the speaker without a sub and get useable 20Hz?
 

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The directivity control of the M3 is very good.

I wonder how low it would go in room against a back wall? Possible to use the speaker without a sub and get useable 20Hz?
They're meant to go close to the front wall (the wall in front of the listener). But we haven't heard anything of them for a long time, so maybe never.
Where and how are you and what's going on?
 
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