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Genelec W371A + The Ones : My quest for the Grail is over
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That question was settled conclusively via a blind test over a year ago by Genelec. 8381A takes the cake.
BTW, according to some Genelec people, the 8381A doesn't sound like the "One," which is meritorious in my book.
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Thats very interesting. Weird how genelec states the 8361A is their most advanced monitor, and that the 1236A is their flagship monitor.
W371A + "The Ones" is the baby version. It is the Beta test of the concept. The 8381A is the realization of all of Genelec's hopes and dreams!
The 8381 extends lower in absolute terms, and the front facing low frequency woofers will extend lower than the W371's 14" "Mid" woofer...so bass response would be better...and they can do more with the DSP. Oh, and it has a sickening amount of dynamic range.
(I'm kind of expecting them to release a soffit mount version of the 8381A for studios?)
They added a new layer to their marketing materials without updating the old layers. Opps...
Regardless, the 8381 is a free-standing main whose bass is controlled via cardioid technology. The 1236A (and the other big mains) are meant to be flush mounted, which offers a better bass control over cardioid. In summation, if a studio opts for a free-standing monitoring system, then 8381A is the solution. If it’s amenable to construct a front wall for flushing mounting then the other mains are the way to go.
FYI, when I inquire with Genelec which would sound better, a flush-mounted 1234A or fee-standing 8381A, the reply was “it depends on the room.”
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Makes sense. We are to the point where all of these monitors are top notch in how good they sound. Many of the differences is just directivity, SPL and how low the bass goes
I thought they said the 8381 was the same concept designed to have much higher loudness capability, didn't they?
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We can't compare different tools.
8381A are mains monitors.
Even if we did,SPL capability (the main goal of mains monitors) of 8381A is enormous,8361 can't come even close even with the addition of any company's sub or woofer like W371A.
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Not to mention, a pair of the 8361A + W371A is significantly cheaper than the 8381A. Potential buyers of the W371A probably already have bought The Ones.
Genelec would also have to consider the price when introducing a new concept or technology into its lineup. It would be hard to convince consumers if their strategy or narrative was to go straight to the 8381As without a cheaper and more approachable proof of concept.
Genelec would also have to consider the price when introducing a new concept or technology into its lineup. It would be hard to convince consumers if their strategy or narrative was to go straight to the 8381As without a cheaper and more approachable proof of concept.
One of the interesting things about the 8381 is that (at least I haven’t heard) about its bass steering modes.
I use the w371 in rear wall steering mode and that seems to suit me best.
With the 8381 it’s clearly capable of all those tricks i’m sure with that extra woofer especially. However there is no information on if those modes apply, if so are they user selectable and if not does the system just figure it out for you during calibration? Or is that what the white glove setup service will do for you?
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IMO, trying to compare the 8361+W371A and the 8381A is largely useless. We have two different concepts for different uses.
the common points between the two systems are :
1) their very high quality level
2) they are mainly intended for professionnals in dedicated rooms. Of course, it's possible for wealthy and discerning audiophiles to buy and use one of these systems, but they're both purposely designed for sound professionnals
By the way, don't forget the largest classic main monitors like the 1235A and 1236A which, used sofit mounted in an acoustically treated studio, are far from being outperformed by the two more modern and versatile concepts discussed in this thread.
As for professionnals, ll's all a matter of type of use and of type of room and installation, and of course of allowed budget for a long term investment.
There is no "best system" in absolute terms, but only " better appropriate system" for their project and situation.
the common points between the two systems are :
1) their very high quality level
2) they are mainly intended for professionnals in dedicated rooms. Of course, it's possible for wealthy and discerning audiophiles to buy and use one of these systems, but they're both purposely designed for sound professionnals
By the way, don't forget the largest classic main monitors like the 1235A and 1236A which, used sofit mounted in an acoustically treated studio, are far from being outperformed by the two more modern and versatile concepts discussed in this thread.
As for professionnals, ll's all a matter of type of use and of type of room and installation, and of course of allowed budget for a long term investment.
There is no "best system" in absolute terms, but only " better appropriate system" for their project and situation.
Thread has two answers:
Not sure if the manual updated between them, but seeing that the sound grading has early reflections as a criteria:
Then maybe the distance to the side wall isn't really the deciding factor, instead it's how loud the reflection is.
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The W371 is not exactly a sub
So.... Do you still need to add subs to complement it and have enought bass?
So.... Do you still need to add subs to complement it and have enought bass?
Having just read the thread: yes, either if you listen loud enough or listen to material low enough in frequency, ie. movie sfx, you'll probably want additional subs.
Post in thread 'Genelec W371A + The Ones : My quest for the Grail is over'
https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...uest-for-the-grail-is-over.23198/post-1442762
Or just back up two pages for a comment about actually needing subs, regardless of what genelec marketing material is saying.
There's some more in the thread too, some just have extra ordinary demands
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There's some more in the thread too, some just have extra ordinary demands
Genelec W371A + The Ones : My quest for the Grail is over
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Yeah i’m listening to my baby system these days the 8341 + 7360. With all the room treatment put into a smaller room. I’ve learned to be satisfied with lower levels. I’ll get the one 8361 and w371 repaired and bring it to this smaller room at some point.