Here are Genelec’s:Any Frequency Response Graphs for these not really sub subs?
Here are Genelec’s:Any Frequency Response Graphs for these not really sub subs?
To start, just go look at the specs and info on Genelec’s website: https://www.genelec.com/w371aWhat do you consider a traditional sub? Any Frequency Response Graphs for these not really sub subs?
Please explain what you mean by the Genelec W371A don’t go as deep as Genelec’s own Subs?
You say that the W371A are not really subs nor do they even try to compare with them. But they list them as Subs right? Just trying to understand what your saying here, not being a smart ass.
I was actually quite surprised that even when both are GLM calibrated to the listening position and integrated with the same GLM sub, the 8351B’s are significantly better to my ear. Granted, they both do sound very very similar in tonality. But the 8351B midrange was noticeably more clear and clean, especially if I pushed them to high levels with comped energetic music. The treble is smoother on the 8351B, though of course both are great.
You say that the W371A are not really subs nor do they even try to compare with them. But they list them as Subs right? Just trying to understand what your saying here, not being a smart ass.
Did you compare the 8361A to the Focal trios that are in the photo by any chance?Good evening everyone
After many listenings for 2 years, B&W, Paradigm, Tad, Revel, Focal ... my quest for the musical Grail is finally over.
I had the great pleasure of being able to attend yesterday the first calibration in France of an 8361A + W371A set at the Chopin Center with David and Gilles from Audio-Technica the importer.
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What can I tell you.
The magic of listening to different modern and classical music: HANS ZIMMER, YOU SUN NAH, MAXWELL, HERBIE HANCOCK, BACH ...
Shivers ... just think about it
A musical emotion that none of us had ever encountered ...
Only one conclusion .... Genelec for life ... looking forward to receiving the 8351B + W971A duo which is optimized for this configuration.
Once again, thank you to Amir and to all the members of ASR who accompanied me in my process.
The subwoofer pricing is really stupid. Amazing subs available for far less than half or even 1/4th the price of the 371A, using the best quality drivers made. I think there is nothing wrong with paying a premium for exceptional quality such as with the speakers, but the subs are WAY out of line. I can't see the justification.
As an example, one of the best measuring raw drivers ever tested on Data-Bass can be bought for around $700: Better than Genelec. Fantastic/SOTA amps are available at reasonable prices, and a rectangular box doesn't cost much either. $9,000???
Does anyone use this system with additional Genelec subs for the sub-bass?
The Morten Lindberg studio setup mentioned above uses a 7380A for the LFE channel, yes. And yes, I think it WOULD be necessary for reference level playback of (some) multi-channel music or home theatre content.
For stereo, less so, but there may still be some benefit on some tracks. It would depend on what your post-GLM frequency response looks like and the size of your room. Room effects probably make the W371A flat to 20hz after correction for most, it's just a question of how loud they actually play there.
Like with all fairly innovative designs which arew unique you pay for the R&D and technology.The subwoofer pricing is really stupid. Amazing subs available for far less than half or even 1/4th the price of the 371A, using the best quality drivers made. I think there is nothing wrong with paying a premium for exceptional quality such as with the speakers, but the subs are WAY out of line. I can't see the justification.
As an example, one of the best measuring raw drivers ever tested on Data-Bass can be bought for around $700: Better than Genelec. Fantastic/SOTA amps are available at reasonable prices, and a rectangular box doesn't cost much either. $9,000???
Exactly! Makes no sense at all.I see some people using the 8361A with the W371A but I think this is a bit silly, since the main difference between the two is the woofer, and the W371A fully replaces the woofer in the Ones.
See S&R measurments for 8361A, no way near omni above 500 Hz. Same with 8351A (I expect 8351B to be the same, but with more maxSPL).What's the polar response with 8351 + W371A?
It's an enviable engineering masterpiece.
It also costs more than my car.
Yeah, well... I don't trust those plots below 1000 hz. It shows my M2's to be constant directivity down to around 200 hz, which is far off the mark according to spinorama measurements.See S&R measurments for 8361A, no way near omni above 500 Hz. Same with 8351A (I expect 8351B to be the same, but with more maxSPL).
Vertical or placed on their side they got CD from 200 Hz and up, 8351 above 300 Hz. So perfect CD with W371A from Bass to Top even with lower xover! Ceiling should be treated, not too sure about the floor.