Given these are priced the same as the 8351B... what would you say is the better speaker for home use at a distance of 4m?
If it can be reasonably presumed that the bass/mid driver is PHL 3411 (or a variant OEM-ed for Genelec based on it), any pointers as to what is used for the HF?
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Not this one. It is made of MDF (32 mm front) as per fairaudio.de test.
8351B would fart long before reaching 100dB at 30hz, the provided specs are for 100hz-3khz. And one is better off looking at the long term value which is [email protected] for that.Treshold of hearing at 30hz is in the range of 70dB so 100dB at 30hz will perceptually be only as loud as 1000hz at 40dB.
The S360A is already -20dB at 30Hz, neither of these speakers are meant to be play that low.
It is clear enough: we need a thread where the experts make us understand everything about what can be heard.Treshold of hearing at 30hz is in the range of 70dB so 100dB at 30hz will perceptually be only as loud as 1000hz at 40dB.
Exactly, without subs its not really possible to get real visceral bass from small monitors.
Assuming no sub, atleast 8351B has a chance to play flat down to 30hz in a suitable room. S360 is cut too high to begin with for my tastes. But it did sound quite sweet otherwise.The S360A is already -20dB at 30Hz, neither of these speakers are meant to be play that low.
S360 Genelec Official's S360 video. I recommend you guys to watch it first. I'm just amazed how many people have opinions here without having any knowledge about the things they talk about.The S360A is already -20dB at 30Hz, neither of these speakers are meant to be play that low.
In order to keep the drivers within a 1/4 wavelength at crossover frequencies, woofers of 83x1 series are in elliptic shape. Multiple drivers within 1/4 wavelength distances to each other behave like a true point source. This is a limiting factor for low end extension and bass max SPL of The Ones series. That being said, above 40hz, Genelec 8361's have incredibly high max SPL. Obviously they are designed to be used with one or multiple subwoofers. This is how 8351's driver looks like:
KH420 uses a dedicated woofer, S360 a mid-woofer. It's so clear, I wonder why you have to ask at all.Why can the KH420 go much lower than S360?
Agreed, especially at the price, and geez, the size!gave it a fair rating due to it's cost and the directivity error which is more severe than even the 8030C at reasonable volume. I know it's SPL focused but then for Genelec I do hope for absolute perfection
I don't think the tweeter is inverted, I think it is the phase EQ that has been used that causes the initial dip down in the step. You see the same thing in the Kii three step response (but not as severe) when their phase equalization is engaged. When it is off, it is clear the tweeter has positive polarity.