Genelec Owners Lounge and Discussion

[napfkuchen]

That's the thing, I always do this step. I can unplug the GLM system from the subwoofer and it works fine. It's when the subwoofer loses power and has to turn back on. It suddenly is back to factory settings again.

Maybe set the "stored" switch back to default (deactivated)? Having it set to "stored" might be some kind of write protection. I never touched the dip switches of my genelec devices.

 

[Kain]

Quick random question:

Does Genelec make all its tweeters/woofers/drivers in-house or does it source them from other companies/manufacturers?

 

[Pearljam5000]

If anyone missed the factory tour

 

[Behrelec 37]

Kain.

As far as I know, they make some of the parts themselves, such as the coaxial elements, which are designed by Genelec. But as far as I know, they order the bass elements. As far as I know, basses are pretty much standard equipment.

 

[Mort]

The 'stored' switch on the subwoofer needs to be ON.

 

[AudioJester]

Hey all,

Got a lovely Genelec system last month: a pair of 8361 + a 7360 subwoofer. Sounds nuts in my NYC apartment den/living room! Don't worry, I have the garden floor apartment and only run ample bass during the day haha. But I do have one issue -- the subwoofer is forgetting the GLM settings every time it's turned off. I try not to turn it off, but power surges happen especially during bad weather, and my surge protector is the on-wall variety -- sometimes even just tugging on the phone charging cord that's also attached to that surge protector is enough to jostle it out of the outlet for a second or two. And then I have to bust out my GLM kit and ethernet cables and save it back into the system. And yes, all the "STORED" toggles are in the on position. Anyone have a fix? Or am I not doing something right?

Do you find the sub adds a lot?

Everytime I think I need a sub for my 8361a, i listen to the speakers alone and cant see the need.

 

[Mort]

Do you find the sub adds a lot?

Everytime I think I need a sub for my 8361a, i listen to the speakers alone and cant see the need.

I did for loud bass heavy music.

 

[kma100]

Hey all,

Got a lovely Genelec system last month: a pair of 8361 + a 7360 subwoofer. Sounds nuts in my NYC apartment den/living room! Don't worry, I have the garden floor apartment and only run ample bass during the day haha. But I do have one issue -- the subwoofer is forgetting the GLM settings every time it's turned off. I try not to turn it off, but power surges happen especially during bad weather, and my surge protector is the on-wall variety -- sometimes even just tugging on the phone charging cord that's also attached to that surge protector is enough to jostle it out of the outlet for a second or two. And then I have to bust out my GLM kit and ethernet cables and save it back into the system. And yes, all the "STORED" toggles are in the on position. Anyone have a fix? Or am I not doing something right?

Do you find that the sub can keep up with the speakers? I thought you would need the 7370 or even the 7380. I think that's what Genelec recommends as well?

 

[sashimifiend69]

The 'stored' switch on the subwoofer needs to be ON.

Well I can say that I turned them all OFF and now it works perfectly. It still has the GLM profile loaded, and it even warns you that all of the switches are off when you load the profile using the GLM device and computer. But it works this way so...

 

[sashimifiend69]

Do you find the sub adds a lot?

Everytime I think I need a sub for my 8361a, i listen to the speakers alone and cant see the need.

The sub adds a lot, though I've never ran the system sans the subwoofer to give you a comparison. It may just be a 10 inch subwoofer but it's incredibly detailed with its high xmax. I've probably spent half of the last 15 years going to house/techno shows though so I'm a bit of a bass freak I suppose. To me the system isn't complete without the sub. Now those monitors can focus solely on mid and hi-range frequencies, allowing the sub to take care of the bass. Plus, if you want to accurately reproduce electronic music like minimal techno, acid house, etc, you cannot be losing 6 db in in the mid 30 hz range. That music is important to me so again, the sub is a necessity! This system is amazing no matter the genre though -- classic jazz (Blue Note, Impulse, etc) sounds so live with the Genelecs and given that genre, you wouldn't need the sub. So it depends on your listening habits.

 

[sashimifiend69]

Do you find that the sub can keep up with the speakers? I thought you would need the 7370 or even the 7380. I think that's what Genelec recommends as well?

I couldn't justify the price increase and frankly it's already a super tight fit with the 7360. It's a 120 sq ft room so I honestly don't need a lot of woofer. The 7360 keeps up absolutely perfectly fine. They obviously want you to spend as much money as possible but I'd say more important is your room configuration. If I had a larger room then it might be required to get that extra displacement to jump to the 7370 but in this cozy den it's simply overkill.

 

[GavriloD]

Can someone educate me on this
Say you have the Ones, any model.
Can you use

miniDSP SHD Studio​

SHD Studio

All-digital Roon Ready network player with Dirac Live® room correction, miniDSP audio toolbox for subwoofer integration and multiway speakers, Volumio music player, headphone output, 450MHz Sharc DSP processor

www.minidsp.com

without a DAC?

 

[Puddingbuks]

Can someone educate me on this
Say you have the Ones, any model.
Can you use

miniDSP SHD Studio​

SHD Studio

All-digital Roon Ready network player with Dirac Live® room correction, miniDSP audio toolbox for subwoofer integration and multiway speakers, Volumio music player, headphone output, 450MHz Sharc DSP processor

www.minidsp.com

without a DAC?

Yes, the shd studio is fully digital, having digital inputs and outputs. So you can connect this unit digitally to the genelecs with a spdif to aes convertor.

 

[Esprit]

So you can connect this unit digitally to the genelecs with a spdif to aes convertor.

The Studio has AES/EBU outputs

 

[Mort]

Do you find that the sub can keep up with the speakers? I thought you would need the 7370 or even the 7380. I think that's what Genelec recommends as well?

A 7360 will be the bottleneck in a 8361a system. Like the 7370 it can absolutely help fill in the lower octave missing on the 8361a. I'm my experience, only the 7380 actually gets the system louder unless you are crossing unusually low.

 

[sashimifiend69]

Again it depends on room size and configuration. In my 12x10 room the 7360 is more than capable of severe dynamic swings. In a bigger room I’d agree with you but I have to keep the 7360 at -6 db even at pretty low volume at night. For such applications, a 7370 or 7380 would truly be overkill. The GLM software takes all this into account and feeds the sub what it needs to create perfect tight punchy bass.

During the day when I know my upstairs neighbor is at work, I let it rip and damn, that little 10 inch sub can do some incredible things. You’re selling it short. I think a pair would be better than a single 7380 if you wanna spend serious coin.

 

[Mort]

Again it depends on room size and configuration. In my 12x10 room the 7360 is more than capable of severe dynamic swings. In a bigger room I’d agree with you but I have to keep the 7360 at -6 db even at pretty low volume at night. For such applications, a 7370 or 7380 would truly be overkill. The GLM software takes all this into account and feeds the sub what it needs to create perfect tight punchy bass.

During the day when I know my upstairs neighbor is at work, I let it rip and damn, that little 10 inch sub can do some incredible things. You’re selling it short. I think a pair would be better than a single 7380 if you wanna spend serious coin.

That the 7360 is a bottleneck does not depend on room size. You just aren't pushing to the limits.

Officially Genelec does not recommend two smaller over one bigger. You get 3db. The next model up is always +3db or more.

 

[sashimifiend69]

That the 7360 is a bottleneck does not depend on room size. You just aren't pushing to the limits.

Officially Genelec does not recommend two smaller over one bigger. You get 3db. The next model up is always +3db or more.

But in practice it does depend on room size. I’d blow my ear drums out and I’d be evicted if I pushed it to the limits. There simply isn’t a reason to get the “recommended” 7380 in a smaller space other than to give Genelec more money.

And about just being concerned about db and getting a bigger sub rather than a pair: I’d much rather have a more consistent bass response with multiple subs in different locations. Such setups almost always sound better.

 

[Mort]

But in practice it does depend on room size. I’d blow my ear drums out and I’d be evicted if I pushed it to the limits. There simply isn’t a reason to get the “recommended” 7380 in a smaller space other than to give Genelec more money.

And about just being concerned about db and getting a bigger sub rather than a pair: I’d much rather have a more consistent bass response with multiple subs in different locations. Such setups almost always sound better.

That's not refuting my point. The 7360 will bottleneck the 8361a. Period.

That you listen below that level is good for you but why get the 8361a then if you don't need the volume?

That's a mismatched monitor and subwoofer. Glad it works for you though.

 

[sashimifiend69]

That the 7360 is a bottleneck does not depend on room size. You just aren't pushing to the limits.

Officially Genelec does not recommend two smaller over one bigger. You get 3db. The next model up is always +3db or more.

And also, it appears Genelec is indeed quite a proponent of multiple subs as well: https://support.genelec.com/hc/en-u...benefits-of-having-one-or-multiple-subwoofers

I’m sure they’d love to sell 8361 owners a pair of 7380s as opposed to 7360s as they are a business but a pair of 7360s would undoubtedly be pretty damned impressive in small + medium sized rooms.