Genelec Owners Lounge and Discussion

[Martini]

Why does he need 2 pairs?

Because he's too cool for school

 

[srrxr71]

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Why does he need 2 pairs?

His desk is so close to the woofer.

 

[G|force]

Because he's too cool for school

Blinded by the light. Yikes!

 

[dalbert02]

What sub would you match to a pair of 8040Bs? It doesn't have to be a Genelec but I'd prefer to lean in that direction. I'm listening from 1-2 meters/yards away. Volume is not as imperative as hearing that last octave.

 

[Martini]

Hi all, please see the following link - https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...er-system-wide-change-revel-to-genelec.65856/
As you can see, I'm thinking about making some drastic changes in my system. Basically everything goes, and is replaced by a Genelec system. Being a fan of the integrity of Benchmark products and their customer service, this is a difficult call . One of my big questions is how do I interface a few digital sources to AES output to the Genelec? My primary source is a Mac mini, so USB, and then 1-Optical (possibly 2) and 1-coax SPDIF. Would I need something like the RME Digiface AES or the Genelec 9320A? Also, volume control?

Follow up:
Well, I've gone and done it now. I've got a pallet of Genelec on the way. Should be arriving a couple days. I've got to build a few AES/EBU cables, then pull the other system out of the room, mount the TV monitor on the wall and set up the Gens. Hoping I didn't make a mistake with this move. If they make me happy, then I'll need to move the Revel and Benchmark kit on to a new home.

 

[Audionaut]

Why does he need 2 pairs?

Makes the pants thicker

 

[Martini]

Delivery day

 

[Reddoc]

Delivery day

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Unboxing videos are a ridiculous waste of bandwidth and have no place on a forum that claims to be about science. And I would very much enjoy watching you unpack every one of these items!

 

[Wg916]

Delivery day

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My 8361a didn’t come in a fancy crate

I see there’s a prop 65 warning on there too, meant for us Californians (ironically, the best things in life seem to carry that warning.) I just got them sent to me in a couple of brown boxes…I actually had to return a speaker to the Genelec distributor in Massachusetts because the rear port was busted in shipping, so the sturdy container would have helped!

I’m super interested in your take on the speakers, especially since you have/had those super high end Revels.

 

[Esprit]

Unboxing videos are a ridiculous waste of bandwidth and have no place on a forum that claims to be about science

Relax, it's a photo.

 

[Martini]

Well, they are still in their boxes. I moved the old equipment into a spare room, rewire/relocated what I needed to, and built some AES/EBU cables. Today started moving the Genelecs into the room and ruined my back trying to get the subwoofer up a flight of stair. Got 4-steps from the top, then bang! Not a happy camper right now. I've got a couple Alieve in me and trying to keep it from tightening up. Crossing my fingers a speedy recovery. I really don't like down time from my training; it's hard enough to stay in shape as it is. Ugh!!

 

[Reddoc]

Well, they are still in their boxes. I moved the old equipment into a spare room, rewire/relocated what I needed to, and built some AES/EBU cables. Today started moving the Genelecs into the room and ruined my back trying to get the subwoofer up a flight of stair. Got 4-steps from the top, then bang! Not a happy camper right now. I've got a couple Alieve in me and trying to keep it from tightening up. Crossing my fingers a speedy recovery. I really don't like down time from my training; it's hard enough to stay in shape as it is. Ugh!!

Ouch!
Sorry to hear that- all the best for a quick recovery.
Maybe some healing music from the new Genelecs will get you better even faster!?!

 

[Martini]

Ouch!
Sorry to hear that- all the best for a quick recovery.
Maybe some healing music from the new Genelecs will get you better even faster!?!

Would help the mind & emotions..., too bad I didn't get them set up.

 

[darth]

Anyone know if it's possible to have digital and analog speakers all working in the same group setup? I have a 9301B that sends AES directly to all but 2 speakers. And the 2 get it via a DAC that converts AES to analog. But GLM disables the analog speakers while digital ones are active.

Only hacky way I could get it to work at all was to turn the analog speakers on and disconnect them from GLM so it can't turn them off. But then I loose GLM control.

Source --> 9301B ——————> 8331/8341/8351
               |______ DAC ---> 8320

 

[Pearljam5000]

Delivery day

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I thought it's the 8380 because of the crate lol

 

[Behrelec 37]

If you want things to progress, you and everyone else will have to rack your brains even harder.When using Genelec digitally, the volume control is always inside the speaker at the end of the external cable, either with a volume control or a remote control. But if you want to control two different combinations, as I have done with my main speakers in digital mode and other speakers in analog mode, this is possible, but it does complicate things.

Since there are very few expensive AV amplifiers on the market with all channels capable of digital output, and now the market where every single person operates is 98 percent full of numerous different DACs glued together, capable AV amplifiers, which I also have, limit the purity of sound quality in an incomprehensibly shocking way. But you can get around this by splitting the outgoing digital audio signal, even if it is now in HDMI format, and then transferring it all to the AV amplifier and the other to the HDMI. But you can get around this by splitting the outgoing digital audio signal, even if it is now in HDMI format, and then transferring it all to the AV amplifier, and the other one continues to convert it to a stereo signal, but in digital form. The transmitted signal should then be connected to the main speakers using different converters.

I currently bypass it through a Sony TV receiver via fiber optic cable to AES EBU format, but this could still be shortened with cable connections and a separate converter.So now I have to use two different volume controls, my AV amplifier's own ( remote control or knob) and the Genelec 9101b remote control or Genelec 9310b digital control knob.This is just a matter of getting used to it. And I can say that splitting the digital sound allows for much better sound quality than if the sound were solely dependent on the AV amplifier's DAC for each XLR analoc
channel. Of course, there are a few devices on the market that enable a full digital signal in the price range of a few thousand euros. For example, Nuprime h16.aes or aip.


So I have digital and analog speakers playing simultaneously, and it works in all DTS, HDMI Master, and Dolby modes. This is obviously a compromise, but the intention was to get the digital Genelecs to work simultaneously with the analog active speakers' XLR cables. Yes, it is possible if you scratch your head and force yourself to find the right answer to your question. Comfort is relative, and you can write the volume levels in decibels on a piece of tape if you can't remember them otherwise. If it matters at all.

 

[darth]

Just an fyi.

Ran into a bug where 9301B goes into sleep state (at the specified ISS sleep interval) even when audio is playing. So I had turn my system on every 10min while watching a movie. Ended up increasing the sleep timeout to a larger number for now. This happens when GLM software is not open/active. Seems Genelec support could reproduce the problem on their end.

Alternative workaround from them while it gets fixed:

Please try the following:

1. Reconnect the 9301B to the GLM Network.
2. Go to 'Group Preset' > 'Add'.

3. Make the 9301B the only active device in the Group. Check its settings are correct.

4. Confirm the Group, skip AutoCal. Go to 'Group Preset' > 'Store into Genelec Devices'

5. Set the ISS to 'Never Sleep'. Store the settings.

6. Disconnect the 9301B from the GLM Network and power cycle.

 

[sashimifiend69]

Hey all,

Got a lovely Genelec system last month: a pair of 8361 + a 7360 subwoofer. Sounds nuts in my NYC apartment den/living room! Don't worry, I have the garden floor apartment and only run ample bass during the day haha. But I do have one issue -- the subwoofer is forgetting the GLM settings every time it's turned off. I try not to turn it off, but power surges happen especially during bad weather, and my surge protector is the on-wall variety -- sometimes even just tugging on the phone charging cord that's also attached to that surge protector is enough to jostle it out of the outlet for a second or two. And then I have to bust out my GLM kit and ethernet cables and save it back into the system. And yes, all the "STORED" toggles are in the on position. Anyone have a fix? Or am I not doing something right?

 

[napfkuchen]

And yes, all the "STORED" toggles are in the on position. Anyone have a fix? Or am I not doing something right?

Seems like every time GLM is launched the settings are applied but have not yet been saved to the speakers/subwoofer?

 

[sashimifiend69]

Seems like every time GLM is launched the settings are applied but have not yet been saved to the speakers/subwoofer?

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That's the thing, I always do this step. I can unplug the GLM system from the subwoofer and it works fine. It's when the subwoofer loses power and has to turn back on. It suddenly is back to factory settings again.