Genelec Owners Lounge and Discussion

[Wg916]

Makes sense right? At modest volume, unsighted, I couldn't tell 8361a from 8341a.

Were there subs attached? That would make it even tougher.

No subs attached to the 8361a, just w371a. The 8381a were running in 2.0.

I’m starting to think that Genelec has come pretty close/the closest to making linear FR above 500 hz a “solved problem”

I mentioned that the 8361a in that room were clear and more detailed. I don’t know if that was due to a lower noise floor as a result of room treatment, or due to the elimination of reflections. I’ve never quite walked into a room that quiet in my life. It was eerie, like the stories you hear about how people can hear their blood flow in an anechoic or sensory deprivation chamber. Maybe not quite at that level but I can now understand the concept!

 

[Wg916]

It's weird because it's not just the size
But the drivers are completely different

Pleasure to meet your acquaintance Pearljam5000. I’ve been a longtime lurker on this forum and admire your consistent asking to compare X speaker to the 8361a. The responses have helped shape my purchasing decision, and I’m glad they did— they 8361a is amazing!

I’m sure the 8381s would sound different/better at higher volumes in a bigger room. The Genelec location in Minato-Ku, Tokyo is located in prime real estate location, and space is at a premium. But like Mort said, at moderate levels, Genelec speakers sound remarkably alike. Now I really regret not testing the bass capabilities of the 8381a..!

 

[Pearljam5000]

Pleasure to meet your acquaintance Pearljam5000. I’ve been a longtime lurker on this forum and admire your consistent asking to compare X speaker to the 8361a. The responses have helped shape my purchasing decision, and I’m glad they did— they 8361a is amazing!

I’m sure the 8381s would sound different/better at higher volumes in a bigger room. The Genelec location in Minato-Ku, Tokyo is located in prime real estate location, and space is at a premium. But like Mort said, at moderate levels, Genelec speakers sound remarkably alike. Now I really regret not testing the bass capabilities of the 8381a..!

Thank you very much for the kind words
I hope you'll enjoy your Genelecs for many years

 

[patoulol]

I understand what @Wg916 felt, even though I haven’t listened to the 8381 yet. I’ve listened to the 8351/W371 pair, the 8361/W371 pair (in two different rooms), and the 8361 alone. And you need a certain listening volume for the W371’s advantage to be justified compared to the 8361 alone. I think around 83 dB SPL. At low volume and close to the speakers, it’s hard to differentiate between the 8341, 8351, and 8361.

Otherwise, I’ve listened to a large number of systems over the past three years, whether in mastering studios or at music enthusiasts’ places. I even worked on jazz mastering with PMC speakers with XBD extension in a treated room with a stable RT of 0.35 and excellent temporal measurements in the low frequencies. Yet, I prefer the 8361/W371 in the room which, however, was not treated as well in acoustics

Some pictures of the systems I listened to

 

[Pearljam5000]

Anyone recognizes what model this is?

 

[Esprit]

'New Genelec Main Monitor'
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-genelec-main-monitor.65845/

 

[Martini]

Hi all, please see the following link - https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...er-system-wide-change-revel-to-genelec.65856/
As you can see, I'm thinking about making some drastic changes in my system. Basically everything goes, and is replaced by a Genelec system. Being a fan of the integrity of Benchmark products and their customer service, this is a difficult call . One of my big questions is how do I interface a few digital sources to AES output to the Genelec? My primary source is a Mac mini, so USB, and then 1-Optical (possibly 2) and 1-coax SPDIF. Would I need something like the RME Digiface AES or the Genelec 9320A? Also, volume control?

 

[Esprit]

I'd go with the Genelec 9320A.
You can control the volume from it, from your Mac, or even from the optional remote.
It's obviously a 2-channel solution.

 

[Kyle_PL]

Genelec support is incredible.

Yes, they are. In Poland we have Genelec distributor "Konsbud" - they helped me with damaged subwoofer, and they are incredible too. (subwoofer was damaged physically by FedEx).

 

[Martini]

Quick overview of the 9320 and I’m not sure if it has enough digital inputs, but maybe I missed something.

 

[G|force]

Anyway..
I have an email from Genelec dated August 7 saying there is a known flaw in GLM 5.2, and that "Our team is actively working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible to restore full functionality."
I get the workaround which is fine, but has anyone heard any followup on this?

 

[Esprit]

Quick overview of the 9320 and I’m not sure if it has enough digital inputs, but maybe I missed something.

Automatic SPDIF (Optical/RCA) Audio Switch by Beni_Skate on Tindie

Automatic Optical/RCA SPDIF Audio Switch with Optical/RCA SPDIF Output and additional high quality Audio DAC

www.tindie.com

 

[Neadych]

 

[srrxr71]

I tested all three with my system

- Trinnov

-Dirac live bass control

-GLM

I had also done some quick measurements and I had a better control bass with the GLM

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I’m just wondering how you can have such different decay times in the same room. GLM is excellent but all it does FR correction.

Also where did you get that mount for the Trinnov mic?

 

[patoulol]

I’m just wondering how you can have such different decay times in the same room. GLM is excellent but all it does FR correction.

Also where did you get that mount for the Trinnov mic?

this support comes from Aliexpress.

The trinnov optimizer does a job in the bass, so it's not surprising according to the sound engineer who made the adjustments for me.

but since then, I don't have the trinnov anymore, I'm with the GLM which has been set to manual

 

[darth]

Interestingly on the same topic, I was inquiring about the new Altitude CI just few days ago and they said...

Our recommendation with the Genelec speakers is to bypass GLM and let the Altitude perform all of the speaker and room correction.

 

[srrxr71]

this support comes from Aliexpress.

The trinnov optimizer does a job in the bass, so it's not surprising according to the sound engineer who made the adjustments for me.

but since then, I don't have the trinnov anymore, I'm with the GLM which has been set to manual

So are you
doing manual adjustments in GLM?

 

[patoulol]

So are you
doing manual adjustments in GLM?

It's a calibrator who took the measurements and manual adjustments in GLM. He measured the speakers up close, then afterward, he measured from the listening position to clearly identify what needs correction. The optimizer didn't convince me because it introduces phase issues. And since the Genelec speakers are already phase-linear, it (trinnov)caused too much frequency masking

White Mastering Studio | EQKINOXE2

www.eqkinoxe.com

We will always get better results with manual correction.

 

[patoulol]

Interestingly on the same topic, I was inquiring about the new Altitude CI just few days ago and they said...

yes, it seems logical to me to disable the GLM to put only the trinnov, if you want to use the trinnov.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Why does he need 2 pairs?