Genelec G Three (A) vs G Three (B) vs 8030c

[jan0bra]

Hey Guys,

I'm thinking about buying Genelecs for my home setup use, not for music production.

So I found the Genelec G Three (A), G Three (B) and the 8030c.

Best fitting for me is the G Three line, because its made for home audio and it lets you turn off the light.

But the thing is I'm a bit confused with their different models... so I'm asking you:

Is there a big difference between the G Three (A) and (B)? The (B) Model is the latest one so it should be better I guess? But on Ebay there are some nice deals for the G Three (A) Model...

Also Is the G Three (B) the home equivalent to the 8030c? Or to the older model 8030b? is the 8030c superior to the G Three (B)? I mean its C not B....

Sorry for the confusion, I just dont get the System behind Genelecs

Hope someone can help!

Thanks in advance!

G Three (A): https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/g-three-a
G Three (B): https://www.genelec.com/g-three
8030c: https://www.genelec.com/8030c

 

[EAXAE]

AFAIC, G3a is equivalent to 8030b, while G3b matches up with 8030c (except for directivity around crossover region—8030c are slighlty better).

In all aspects—SPL, extension, flatness, directivity, power consumption—8030b (G3a) falls slightly short of 8030c (G3b).

 

[jan0bra]

Thank you very much!

 

[Miguelón]

AFAIC, G3a is equivalent to 8030b, while G3b matches up with 8030c (except for directivity around crossover region—8030c are slighlty better).

In all aspects—SPL, extension, flatness, directivity, power consumption—8030b (G3a) falls slightly short of 8030c (G3b).

I think G Three B and 8030C are exactly the same (equal box and electroscoustics inside) but Genelec forgot to add the B measurements on its website (except in Japan) and shows still G Three A measurements (prior to 2017 launch of both speakers).

Another member sent me the correct link in Japan site, let’s see if I can aport it…

Update:

Here they are Genelec G Three B in Japan website recorded at same day as 8030C

The Genelec 8030C in the Europe website, same spinorama

And finally the “missed” G Three B (A) in Europe website

 

[Miguelón]

Hey Guys,

I'm thinking about buying Genelecs for my home setup use, not for music production.

So I found the Genelec G Three (A), G Three (B) and the 8030c.

Best fitting for me is the G Three line, because its made for home audio and it lets you turn off the light.

But the thing is I'm a bit confused with their different models... so I'm asking you:

Is there a big difference between the G Three (A) and (B)? The (B) Model is the latest one so it should be better I guess? But on Ebay there are some nice deals for the G Three (A) Model...

Also Is the G Three (B) the home equivalent to the 8030c? Or to the older model 8030b? is the 8030c superior to the G Three (B)? I mean its C not B....

Sorry for the confusion, I just dont get the System behind Genelecs

Hope someone can help!

Thanks in advance!

G Three (A): https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/g-three-a
G Three (B): https://www.genelec.com/g-three
8030c: https://www.genelec.com/8030c

I will correct one of my answers: having some problems with interferences and deciding to go with the balanced input and external DAC, I purchased an 8030C to match my G Three, doesn’t bother by the small led because on the Three is switched off and on 8030C is quite discrete.

But they don’t sound equal, I can match one with the other with EQ but without further listening and knowing that subjective listenings have no more than a relative value, I have the impression of a cleanest sound in 8030C.

The reason I went to a 8030C and not a G Three is that now the price at the dealer has increased substantially…

Measurements don’t show anything different, I don’t saying is night and day, but If I have to choose and supposing a little less of noise-distortion from 8030C or equal to G Three, I will keep with the first.

Maybe the member who wrote that perhaps quality control in building pro gear are better in Genelec, or maybe psychological but not justified the 732€ of G Three face to 540€ of 8030C here in Spain.

 

[Miguelón]

AFAIC, G3a is equivalent to 8030b, while G3b matches up with 8030c (except for directivity around crossover region—8030c are slighlty better).

In all aspects—SPL, extension, flatness, directivity, power consumption—8030b (G3a) falls slightly short of 8030c (G3b).

“AFAIC” means “as far as I’m concerned”? Another english abbreviation I learn, I’ve just red second time your post: not agree on 8030C but like this kind of expressions…

 

[nate122]

Yeah, AFAIC means "as far as I’m concerned". I understand your point about the 8030C. People choose their preferred sound orientation differently yet perceive audio devices with identical specifications quite differently.

 

[Miguelón]

Yeah, AFAIC means "as far as I’m concerned". I understand your point about the 8030C. People choose their preferred sound orientation differently yet perceive audio devices with identical specifications quite differently.

In this case, regarded what most members thought, both speakers are more different than could appear…

I’m very fan of Genelec, till the point that had 8020D, 8030C, G Two and G Three B (F Two subwoofer) at home. Actually only 8020D and 8030C (the first one has better room response at my very reflective room than the 8030C).

Tweaking a little bit the EQ of both speakers one can make a semi- decent stereo couple, tonality is surprisingly even once lowering a little bit mid bass section on 8020D and low end of 8030C, reducing a little bit more sensitivity on the biggest one also. I did it just by curiosity

But I was unable at all to match 8030C with G Three, this one sounds like “thin” whatever I did on the WiiM’s PEQ with help of the microphone. Even 8020D sounded better and less distorted than G Three, G Two was returned before to having a mic to compensate…

Subjectively G line sound “warmer” and “limited” knowing that terms didn’t express really measurable values but I lack of precise instruments (and knowledge) to measure distortion. Compression is surely easy to evaluate simply by rising SPL and measuring again.

My final thought is that for a home, studio reference monitors are “brutal” in the sense of the lesser default on a recording is evidenced: I should do more aggressive EQ on 8030C than on G Three to smooth mid section and highs.

Sadly I’m too far to send G Three to Amir (and I returned the speaker yesterday to Finland, the dealer was so gently to accept money back beyond the 30 days trial period), surely he could show what is the difference…

AFAIC is a good idea to don’t mix G and 80xx speakers, because I did it. IMHO G line is retuned to be less revealing on mid range and sounds less like a studio monitor.

 

[Miguelón]

Hey Guys,

I'm thinking about buying Genelecs for my home setup use, not for music production.

So I found the Genelec G Three (A), G Three (B) and the 8030c.

Best fitting for me is the G Three line, because its made for home audio and it lets you turn off the light.

But the thing is I'm a bit confused with their different models... so I'm asking you:

Is there a big difference between the G Three (A) and (B)? The (B) Model is the latest one so it should be better I guess? But on Ebay there are some nice deals for the G Three (A) Model...

Also Is the G Three (B) the home equivalent to the 8030c? Or to the older model 8030b? is the 8030c superior to the G Three (B)? I mean its C not B....

Sorry for the confusion, I just dont get the System behind Genelecs

Hope someone can help!

Thanks in advance!

G Three (A): https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/g-three-a
G Three (B): https://www.genelec.com/g-three
8030c: https://www.genelec.com/8030c

I’m curious about which speaker did you finally take.
This morning I spoke by chat with Genelec and confirmed that Genelec G Three B is acoustically the same as 8030C.
Is a well chosen word, because the mentioned tonality subjective difference perceived.

As being a pro speaker, probably 8030C is more “nude” in harmonics, I recently opened a post to ask for the only piece that makes an external difference (the gain knob) and I’m now sure that has nothing to do with coloration.

Probably the coloration is added on the G Three side to sound less “nude” or “raw”, I red some comments that this is sometimes made to home gear to get more “body” on the sound.

Nevertheless this won’t affect the quality of none of this speakers, brain process quite well little colorations, frequency curve is not affected nor noise or unwanted distortion.

Because I’m a little obsessive I kept the 8030C and returned G Three, psychologically I’m more prone to pro gear