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Genelec 83x0 vs 83x1

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I'm sending in the 8030C soon

Have you sent em in? My monitor hunt is still ongoing. I need more data! haha

The 8330+7350 idea sounds very interesting but I want to see how good the 2 way 8xx0 enclosure is first
 

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Have you sent em in? My monitor hunt is still ongoing. I need more data! haha

The 8330+7350 idea sounds very interesting but I want to see how good the 2 way 8xx0 enclosure is first

Yes they have been delivered
 

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8030C+8030C+7040A+7040A. 3-way system. Subs in stereo.
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For me, yes. Two reasons:

1. I use these in a ultra near field setup and the benefits to 8330 are clear to me, though not huge
2. These took away the 'upgrade itch' and gave me a piece of mind. Huge plus! :)

As noted earlier, these sound very easy and transparent and I don't think about them nor do I need to adjust the volume as often as earlier with the 8330. There were some aspects of the 8330 sound that made me pay attention the them and then think about adjusting the sound.

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Nice!!

I’m now looking at Genelec monitors too... :-D For my listening room though... I’m between the 8341A, 8340A or 8350A. I’m also questioning whether I really need to go with a SAM solution or use REW and Roon instead for room correction which is what I’m already doing with my current setup save some and get 80X0 monitors instead.

I’m also not sure if sitting 3 meters from the speakers I’d get much of the benefits of the coaxial design.

How’s your setup? Are you driving the 8331 with the RME analog output? Or are you using GLM to control the volume and sending a digital signal to the 8331?
 

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I am using GLM and works like a charm on my desktop PC system. Volume control is my mouse wheel. I once used ADI-2 Pro and it’s digital output and ADIs volume knob but direct GLM is easier and better,

I would chose 8341 hands down. That’s end game and you are done.
 

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I am using GLM and works like a charm on my desktop PC system. Volume control is my mouse wheel. I once used ADI-2 Pro and it’s digital output and ADIs volume knob but direct GLM is easier and better,
I would chose 8341 hands down. That’s end game and you are done.

Can the GLM interface cary the dgital signal from the computer or do you need the AES/EBU connection for that? Sorry for the noob questions, I’m not sure how you’re converting USB to AES/EBU...
 

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Can the GLM interface cary the dgital signal from the computer or do you need the AES/EBU connection for that? Sorry for the noob questions, I’m not sure how you’re converting USB to AES/EBU...

GLM does not carry audio signal - it is only control / management interface. AES/EBU is for the audio signal.

Matrix Audio has a nice usb / aes interface.
 

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GLM does not carry audio signal - it is only control / management interface. AES/EBU is for the audio signal.

Matrix Audio has a nice usb / aes interface.
I hope it's nice, as it's 400€ here. You can get a Topping D10S that doesn't need any external power with a Canare impedance adapter for 135€.
 

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Yep. Nice indeed - CNC aluminium casing and power thru USB. Matrix Audio gear isn’t the cheapest option but well received here at ASR I believe :)

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Amir has tested one:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...of-matrix-audio-x-spdif-2-usb-converter.6597/
Wow, looks like it was effective in reducing jitter as well. I'm just looking to convert USB to AES without loss, so that's a big plus I guess!

I'm ok paying more for a nice case as long as the circuit is well designed and a good performer. The case does look very nice, on par with all other Matrix Audio products. And I totally dig their minimalist design, definitely my cup of tea.
 
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The 8341A might be a little too much for my budget at the present, especially having no experience with any Genelec product... The 8340A or 8350A seem more realistic. Any preferences from this crowd?

PS: I have a 8030C on back order - looks like I still have a good amount of waiting ahead of me... That will be my first Genelec, I was hopping to get a sense of the Genelec experience with them. They will also work really well in my home office setup and declutter that space nicely.
 

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The 8341A might be a little too much for my budget at the present, especially having no experience with any Genelec product... The 8340A or 8350A seem more realistic. Any preferences from this crowd?

PS: I have a 8030C on back order - looks like I still have a good amount of waiting ahead of me... That will be my first Genelec, I was hopping to get a sense of the Genelec experience with them. They will also work really well in my home office setup and declutter that space nicely.
Personally, I'd get (well, I already have) the 8030C and wait for enough money to get the 8351B or 8341A (or any other 3-way). The 8340A isn't as good as the 8350A in everything (not only volume and LF extension) due to the tweeter getting too small (8x50 got a 1" instead of 3/4") thus crossing too high to be corrected completely by the waveguide.
The 8350A, on the other hand, has the best bass directivity control; only the 8361A can match it. But it's honestly a midfield monitor, no point in comparing it to the 8341A which is more of nearfield one.
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Personally, I'd get (well, I already have) the 8030C and wait for enough money to get the 8351B or 8341A (or any other 3-way). The 8340A isn't as good as the 8350A in everything (not only volume and LF extension) due to the tweeter getting too small (8x50 got a 1" instead of 3/4") thus crossing too high to be corrected completely by the waveguide.
The 8350A, on the other hand, has the best bass directivity control; only the 8361A can match it. But it's honestly a midfield monitor, no point in comparing it to the 8341A which is more of nearfield one.
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Thank you for your feedback! I forgot to mention that these won’t be used as nearfields, but instead in my main stereo system 3 meters away from the listening position. In a 70 m3 space (opened to other areas).
 

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Thank you for your feedback! I forgot to mention that these won’t be used as nearfields, but instead in my main stereo system 3 meters away from the listening position. In a 70 m3 space (opened to other areas).
In this case, while the 8350A is one of the best options, the smoother omnidirectional response of a well designed 3-way speaker will matter a lot to you.
 

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In this case, while the 8350A is one of the best options, the smoother omnidirectional response of a well designed 3-way speaker will matter a lot to you.
Yeah... I’m afraid I’ll have to spend a good amount of money for the best setup...8351B might be the ones needed... That’s 8K in the US (6K for the 8341A)
 

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I would get the 8330 bundle with the GLM and maybe later then upgrade to 8341 with the GLM already in place. I wouldn't buy the 80x0 anymore without the GLM if money is not a strict concern.

(8330 bundle with GLM 1799€ for example here: https://www.stpaulssound.fi/genelec...aiutinpari-glm-30-paketilla/p/8330APM-PACK-6/ )
Hmmm, if you plan on buying GLM speakers after that, it may be a good idea. Because the price difference is still quite high. To compare, a pair of 8030C is 1040€ while the 8330 + GLM is 1880€.
 

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Hmmm, if you plan on buying GLM speakers after that, it may be a good idea. Because the price difference is still quite high. To compare, a pair of 8030C is 1040€ while the 8330 + GLM is 1880€.
It’s a big difference in price and I wonder if for a non professional use it is really necessary... Of course all higher end Gen’s come with the technology built in. A lot of what DSM accomplishes can be done using REW + a measurement microphone and the EQ in Roon. As long as I use Roon for music, that solution works. Of course not as easy and the speakers won’t keep the settings. And well, I kind of like knowing it’s all analog inside on the 80X0 series since I’m already doing D to A before and possibly with better DACs and higher SINAD than what’s built in the SAM monitors.

I did hesitate between the 8030C and 8330A, but ended up opting for the 8030C. I wish I could have both at home and compare subjectively.

See this thread for what’s inside:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/i-disassembled-my-genelec-8351b.14874
 
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I have had this series of Genelecs in my desktop system, in this order: 8020, 8030, 8330, 8330+7350, 8331+7350. The biggest change in sound was when I upgraded to 8330 and had the first room calibration with GLM. If one has the time and skills to do the same with REW then 8030 will probably be fine. Just remember to make the calibration somehow :)
 
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