- Feb 28, 2016
I don’t listen too loud. Peaks in the mid 80 db per my iPhone based db meter. Dedicated listening (as opposed to background) is classical and jazz, so there can be dynamic peaks along the way, with bigger jazz ensembles, orchestral music.The recommendation is for professionals mastering at the stated loudness - how loud do you need your speakers is the question
In the 8351, they use technology from infineon in apparently their own amplifier design . I guess its the same amplifier for midrange and the tweeter in 8361, but Im not sure.Very true .
Genelec did extensive investigations about class D amplifiers in their studiomonitors already twenty years ago, and 8 years ago , the year 2013 it seems they discovered that the technology was mature and as good as class A/B , and in certain ways even better ( better bass, lower power consumtion, less heat ) .
Read Genelecs white-paper about class D here :
Yes, if you are mastering reference level for movies far field, the dynamic swings are huge - thus "pro" monitors. The pros do need something that can hit high SPL without distorting (or breaking) day in day out in a studio. Obviously, I'm not a professional mixer for movie theater content but we have one such member: @audio2920 what are your thoughts on the high SPL capability of the 8361A - necessary or overkill?
It can go up to 10, just pretty close to impossible.If the preference rating goes up to 10, I'm curious what we can expect from speakers scoring significantly higher than this?? Does any such speaker exist and what's the audible "improvement" to the listener? I'm confounded that this is "only" 7.9! LOL damn measurements
Especially if, like me, you like to run your LCR without bass management. (I know, I know..... I just like it, OK? ) If you're using BM then maybe not so much?
None for me, and I think this is consistent for modern Genelec models. I'm nearfield with my 8350a (less than 1m) and hear no hiss/noise at all - and I do bring the volume up a bit when monitoring (eliminate extraneous artifacts like tongue clicks, breathing, etc.) so I imagine the newer 8351/61 are equally silent.Nothing had been said about hissing....
Is there any, please ?
This is completely human too so I don't know how you eliminate the bias of "my wife just left me and took my dog, I'm pissed and ready to listen to some stupid speakers".It can go up to 10, just pretty close to impossible.
In the Olive’s patent document it shows the ~70 speakers and the measured vs actual scores, the max actual score was an ~8.2, which I assume is the Salon2.
I know Matthew Poes is working with a company for their own formula, but would be cool if ASR members could do their own as well. Matthew has told me though that he was (at the time) unsatisfied with the repeatability of testing the same person on different days as they scored speakers decently different on each occasions.
Yes, @audio2920 has dedicated a thread to this very topic LOLI do hear this opinion being expressed now and again; why do you prefer it that way? Or, if you already have elsewhere, could you point me toward the previous post(s)?
One idea I've heard, I believe on the SVS forums, is "why waste your speakers' bass capability" for which the almost-always answer seems to be lower IMD and higher overall output from the speaker (not the entire room). Just curious, as someone in a relevant industry, your personal take on it?
Dr. Toole has said that for stereo setups, early reflections are incredibly important to this sense of space/soundstage and suggest not absorbing first reflections at all.This got me wondering, what creates a sense of 'openness' in a speaker? Is it that many simply spray their sound all over the place?
Other than the soundstage what were the other differences between them?I recently had the 8361's on a home demo.
Currently I'm using a pair of ATC SCM25a and, whilst the 8361s are clearly superior, there is something about their presentation that some may not find agreeable. As Amir mentioned the image created is limited in size (particularly compared to other (floorstanding) speakers) and, I felt, somehow feels fired at you through a narrow opening.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the 8361s (and I suspect I will be ordering some) but once my demo was over and I switched back to my ATCs, I was struck but the (comparatively) open soundstage. Given that the speakers are a similar size I was puzzled by this.
This got me wondering, what creates a sense of 'openness' in a speaker? Is it that many simply spray their sound all over the place?