Genelec 8351B Review (Studio Monitor)

[HiMu]

If someone uses the Sound Character Profiler editor, are all the remaining points of correction no longer available for tweaking or can you use SCP plus the remaining points to further adjust the target curve?

The 2 shelving filters can be "tied" to be used from the SCP editor or use them from the individual speaker editors, it's basically a system wide tone control especially for immersive systems with several speakers. All the used and unused correction filters are freely tweakble from the individual speaker editors.
Do note that it doesn't effect subwoofers at all, I don't know how it behaves with the W371 woofer system.

 

[Thomas Lund]

With reviews like those on ASR, the One's are gaining more and more acceptance in the consumer/home market. I know, because Iam one such user! I frequently see posts from potential buyers weary of not being able to easily use non-Genelec subs with GLM, sometimes a deciding purchasing factor. Any plans to address this in GLM, or will it remain a system for only Genelec subs?

Interesting question but given the way GLM works the electronics needing adding to the outside users SUB would be expensive, and from a Genelec perspective, pointless, excercise I would imagine.

As discussed, we do not support custom solutions; but what would be possible for brave home pros is already pretty extensive, see attached. I have actually used 8341 experimentally as Lego bricks with custom subs.

Settings along the dotted lines may be stored permanently via GLM (or, more limited, via DIP switches). In case an upstream processor performs some or all room compensation Eq, level and time (delay) may still be stored, per channel. Other processing is also active, for instance 3-way crossover filters, extended phase linearity and driver protections.

Channel hi-pass filtering may be engaged as well, which in GLM can be set at 5 Hz increments between 50 and 100 Hz, per Ones channel. This is matched easily using Genelec 73 series subs. With custom subs, however, you have to figure out a way of doing summation of main channels for the subs (I recommend at least separate L and R subs, see above), sub level control, system on/off, lo-pass slopes, phase etc. Also, please don't expect help from me or from Genelec support in such endeavours

 

[AudioScienceGuineaPig]

I'm using 8351B + 4 SVS subs and Dirac Live Bass Control via a NAD M66. Have not tried GLM so can't say if I'm missing out, but I already had SVS subs.

The M66 is a pretty expensive, stereo-only solution, however, the results of DLBC seem decent enough.

This is an old measurement in my untreated living room with sub-optimal speaker placement and probably too much bass.

Not sure how I'd improve the 150-500Hz dip.

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Thanks for posting your experience.

Do you recall how far away the Mic was from the 8341B's in the measurement above?

My only thought is that maybe you need to sit closer (or place the Mic closer) and during the measurement session. The Mic may have been outside of the ideal listening distance for this speaker so energy was falling off, but this is just a guess.

 

[AudioScienceGuineaPig]

Already on the naughty list it seems

 

[sharock]

Thanks for posting your experience.

Do you recall how far away the Mic was from the 8341B's in the measurement above?

My only thought is that maybe you need to sit closer (or place the Mic closer) and during the measurement session. The Mic may have been outside of the ideal listening distance for this speaker so energy was falling off, but this is just a guess.

They are 8351Bs and it's a moving mic measurement at my sofa listening position about 2m away.

Not sure what you mean by the energy falling off? It's following the target curve I used in Dirac which boosts the bass and tilts the treble down. I wasn't aiming for a flat in-room response, more Harman/Olive-like I suppose.

 

[Mort]

8351b White on Kanto SX26W stands. I was stealthy getting the boxes in the house. They are a hit with my partner.

I have not gotten to listen to them, much less get them calibrated. I'm just psyched to have a pair.

 

[tmtomh]

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8351b White on Kanto SX26W stands. I was stealthy getting the boxes in the house. They are a hit with my partner.

I have not gotten to listen to them, much less get them calibrated. I'm just psyched to have a pair.

You'll be even more psyched when you start listening - enjoy!

 

[Pearljam5000]

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8351b White on Kanto SX26W stands. I was stealthy getting the boxes in the house. They are a hit with my partner.

I have not gotten to listen to them, much less get them calibrated. I'm just psyched to have a pair.

Where are the first impressions?

 

[JustJones]

Nice looking setup though the speaker looks a bit precarious. Maybe it's just the angle of the photo?

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8351b White on Kanto SX26W stands.

 

[Mort]

Where are the first impressions?

Was hoping/expecting to be more 'wowed'. They just can't hold the bass like the 8361a's. They are in a different room, and I have to calibrate them, but they sound like good bookshelf monitors to me. The 8361a's sound like amazing floor standers. And I'm not getting the beautiful soundstage but that's probably my setup/config. I'll return with more thoughts. At first, I didn't like the 8361a's either and I have grown to love them.

Nice looking setup though the speaker looks a bit precarious. Maybe it's just the angle of the photo?

Thanks. I like it. I fill those 30lb stands with ~35lbs of lead shot in scuba weights. The monitors themselves are 42lbs. It's deceptively stable. That said, I do not have any wild pets or kids anymore. If I did, I am not sure I would use these.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Was hoping/expecting to be more 'wowed'. They just can't hold the bass like the 8361a's. They are in a different room, and I have to calibrate them, but they sound like good bookshelf monitors to me. The 8361a's sound like amazing floor standers. And I'm not getting the beautiful soundstage but that's probably my setup/config. I'll return with more thoughts. At first, I didn't like the 8361a's either and I have grown to love them.


Thanks. I like it. I fill those 30lb stands with ~35lbs of lead shot in scuba weights. The monitors themselves are 42lbs. It's deceptively stable. That said, I do not have any wild pets or kids anymore. If I did, I am not sure I would use these.

Makes sense that the 8351 is somewhat of a downgrade compared to 8361

 

[Mort]

I think it's my mistake. I realized they have the prior owner's DSP still loaded and they rolled off around 50hz. I'll connected it to GLM and wiped it.

The sound is much fuller; bass is present but modest. This is a big room, 30x15feet. They are set up in one half with a TV, part of a 5.1 system. Only the Left and Right are 'Ones'. (We don't care about movies and TV.). It's being run through a MiniDSP HT Flex with DiracLive and there's a Rythmik subwoofer.

The system sounds good but haven't surprised me yet. I was hoping for more. I have a feeling there's more to get out of them. Maybe I'll bring up a genelec subwoofer.

 

[Mort]

I did not realize the 8341a and 8351b have the same amplification. Interesting.

 

[Mort]

Kinda weird. Wonder where the extra 10 lbs comes from? I guess the larger enclosure.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Kinda weird. Wonder where the extra 10 lbs comes from? I guess the larger enclosure.

And bigger drivers

 

[Mort]

Full system

 

[Pearljam5000]

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Full system

Perfect

 

[TheKoC]

Nice System, but that center channel hurts a bit
The one place where a coaxial would have a clear advantage...

 

[TheKoC]

Kinda weird. Wonder where the extra 10 lbs comes from? I guess the larger enclosure.

also larger drivers, no?

 

[Mort]

Nice System, but that center channel hurts a bit
The one place where a coaxial would have a clear advantage...

I guess. We just don't care about video sound. If I find a cheap 8341a...