Genelec 5.2.4 HT/Music Setup

[tifune]

Is your dealer in the US?

Sweetwater, demo deals and then I got price down further by paying ACH xfer

 

[Gene LeClair]

Thanks for this awesome thread and merry Christmas!

I already own a pair of 8351b and am considering upgrading to 5.1 setup.

Do you think it would be sufficient to:

a) replace the center monitor with 8341b?

b) and/or replace the surrounds with 8331b?

My listening space is about the same size as yours, but I don't have a sofa, just an armchair.

 

[Gene LeClair]

I have been thinking about doing an all around 9.4.6 Genelec The Ones but unfortunately I can’t find a dealer willing to discount them!

Did you do it?

 

[Descartes]

Did you do it?

No, from the three Genelec dealers that I spoke with only one was willing to do a 10% discount.

So since, I was able to get an amazing deal on KEF Reference Meta, I went that route instead, and also I already had excellent amplifiers.

In addition in a living room setting the KEF look much better.

 

[Sancus]

Thanks for this awesome thread and merry Christmas!

I already own a pair of 8351b and am considering upgrading to 5.1 setup.

Do you think it would be sufficient to:

a) replace the center monitor with 8341b?

b) and/or replace the surrounds with 8331b?

My listening space is about the same size as yours, but I don't have a sofa, just an armchair.

Thanks for the kind words and Merry Christmas + Happy New Year to you as well!

a) In terms of surround audio there is limited benefit to larger L/R speakers than the center. The center plays the vast majority of audio in most multi-channel tv/movie tracks and averages significantly louder than any other speaker. So when you have a smaller center speaker, it bottlenecks the maximum SPL for the whole system.

If you want to use L/R alone for stereo listening and you listen fairly loud, then it makes some sense at least. But for surround and in general I would just go all L/C/R 8341A if the center has to be 8341A.

There is no actual problem with doing this though. 8351 and 8341 sound basically identical when bass managed w/subs. So if you don't really care about SPL or want 8351 L/R for some other reason, hey, it's your system.

b) Well, it depends. Personally I wouldn't use 8331A for surrounds, the reason is this: 8331A compression measurement
It maxes out at around 99dB @ 1m *above* 100hz so a sub won't fix this. That said, if you are OK with that restriction, the speakers are fairly close, and you always listen at -10dB or less and don't really need 100dB for peaks, it can work. Again, depends on your requirements.

All choices between different sizes of The Ones boil down to "how much bass and SPL do I need?".

 

[Vacceo]

No, from the three Genelec dealers that I spoke with only one was willing to do a 10% discount.

So since, I was able to get an amazing deal on KEF Reference Meta, I went that route instead, and also I already had excellent amplifiers.

In addition in a living room setting the KEF look much better.

In its functionality, Sancus has made a very nice system aesthetically speaking. It has some merit to set monitors, speakers not originally meant for the use, in a quite classy setup.

 

[Gene LeClair]

Gear​

L/C/R are Genelec 8351Bs.
LS/RS are Genelec 8341As.
4 x Heights are Neumann KH80.
2 x Subwoofers are Arendal 1723 2S.

Stands are: K&M 26706 Base Plate + 24623 Rod (heights/surrounds) + 26736 Rod (L/R). The 19780 adapter is used for all speakers, but the 19610 could also be used. The 8351Bs are pretty near the weight limit for that adapter, so they tend to sag a bit, but flipping the adapters upside down(so the angle adjustment can only tilt upwards) fixed that. The friction clamp on the 19780 will not hold an 8351B(14.3kg) but will hold an 8341A(9.8kg). If the speaker is at the minimum height, the clamp does not need to support the weight because it will rest on the lower tube section.

What kind of screws did you use for the 19780 adapter? Did it include them? Or did you use the screws that came with genelec speakers?

 

[Sancus]

What kind of screws did you use for the 19780 adapter? Did it include them? Or did you use the screws that came with genelec speakers?

It doesn't come with screws, you would need different screws depending which speaker brand you're using, I think. Genelecs take M6 metric screws on the back, I used M6x16 with a couple of rubber washers. You would want slightly shorter, like M6 x 12 or 14 if you're not using thick washers.

 

[Gene LeClair]

It doesn't come with screws, you would need different screws depending which speaker brand you're using, I think. Genelecs take M6 metric screws on the back, I used M6x16 with a couple of rubber washers. You would want slightly shorter, like M6 x 12 or 14 if you're not using thick washers.

Thanks for the quick answer