Gaia Isolation anything in this?

[END WAY]

Okay, but what about use of isolators?

When you put the isoacoustic on, the most likely thing that will happen is that the box vibrates much less, when this happens the box no longer emits sound and our senses translate it into a cleaner sound, a frequency measurement will not show that, but if we measure the vibration it will surely come out.
So does it work? My vote is yes, although if you like the sound that wood, mdf, emits, you may not like isoacoustic.
Perhaps in something extremely solid, like magic M9, the difference is not felt.

 

[Chrispy]

When you put the isoacoustic on, the most likely thing that will happen is that the box vibrates much less, when this happens the box no longer emits sound and our senses translate it into a cleaner sound, a frequency measurement will not show that, but if we measure the vibration it will surely come out.
So does it work? My vote is yes, although if you like the sound that wood, mdf, emits, you may not like isoacoustic.
Perhaps in something extremely solid, like magic M9, the difference is not felt.

So what is your specific experience and testing of such? The floor is more the thing that will vibrate it seems rather than changing the actual box resonances....

 

[END WAY]

So what is your specific experience and testing of such? The floor is more the thing that will vibrate it seems rather than changing the actual box resonances....

My experience is that I have tested many speakers that I have and in all except Magnepan there are audible differences.
Tests? If I test the frequency response again I will not notice any changes, it's that simple, we are used to the fact that if the frequency response shows no differences then everything will sound the same, we don't care about other aspects such as phase, distortions or the natural timbre of the speaker, etc...

 

[Chrispy]

My experience is that I have tested many speakers that I have and in all except Magnepan there are audible differences.
Tests? If I test the frequency response again I will not notice any changes, it's that simple, we are used to the fact that if the frequency response shows no differences then everything will sound the same, we don't care about other aspects such as phase, distortions or the natural timbre of the speaker, etc...

Tested how, tho? Specifics, please. So far sounds like you're relying on very un-reliable "testing" methodology and thus of little interest.

 

[END WAY]

Tested how, tho? Specifics, please. So far sounds like you're relying on very un-reliable "testing" methodology and thus of little interest.

I use an advanced program found in Helix DSP processors and measure with an MTK 1 mic.
Sometimes I also use the MAX (JL audio) https://www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602 which comes with 5 mics and is ideal for measuring mainly phases.

 

[Chrispy]

I use an advanced program found in Helix DSP processors and measure with an MTK 1 mic.
Sometimes I also use the MAX (JL audio) https://www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602 which comes with 5 mics and is ideal for measuring mainly phases.

Great, post the results showing these worthy differences.

 

[END WAY]

Great, post the results showing these worthy differences.

Please don't be sarcastic, it seems I wasn't clear, there are no visible differences in the frequency response without and with isoacoustic, what I said was that you can hear the difference.

 

[Chrispy]

Please don't be sarcastic, it seems I wasn't clear, there are no visible differences in the frequency response without and with isoacoustic, what I said was that you can hear the difference.

I'd still not trust your hearing report from what you've posted as it is quite vague as to how you accomplished such.

 

[END WAY]

I'd still not trust your hearing report from what you've posted as it is quite vague as to how you accomplished such.

If so, borrow some, try them out and make your own judgement.
I know there are some things like power cables, RCAs, mains filters, with those I have never heard any auditory differences, but in the case of isoacoustic there are.

 

[Chrispy]

If so, borrow some, try them out and make your own judgement.
I know there are some things like power cables, RCAs, mains filters, with those I have never heard any auditory differences, but in the case of isoacoustic there are.

Uh huh

 

[Jim Taylor]

Please don't be sarcastic, it seems I wasn't clear, there are no visible differences in the frequency response without and with isoacoustic, what I said was that you can hear the difference.

I don't know whether @Chrispy was being sarcastic or not, but I'm not being sarcastic. Please show us the before-and-after measurements; I think they would be very, very interesting.

If, after examining them, we can see that there truly is no difference, then we would ask you to undergo a double-blind test to ascertain that there is clearly a difference that you can hear to a statistically significant degree.

Thank you.

Jim

 

[Chrispy]

I don't know whether @Chrispy was being sarcastic or not, but I'm not being sarcastic. Please show us the before-and-after measurements; I think they would be very, very interesting.

If, after examining them, we can see that there truly is no difference, then we would ask you to undergo a double-blind test to ascertain that there is clearly a difference that you can hear to a statistically significant degree.

Thank you.

Jim

No, not being sarcastic, perhaps extremely doubtful at best.

 

[MattHooper]

Some people in this thread, keep asking for measurable differences using the Isoacoustic stuff. But didn’t this very thread start with a link to an article showing measurable differences?

And somebody else referenced measurements supplied by the manufacturer.

 

[Chrispy]

Some people in this thread, keep asking for measurable differences using the Isoacoustic stuff. But didn’t this very thread start with a link to an article showing measurable differences?

And somebody else referenced measurements supplied by the manufacturer.

What is the value of that though

 

[wwenze]

My mom built a new rack to replace my old when I was out of the country for 3 months. The HDD now transmit the vibrations to the rack for an audible hum.

My solution is to put the HDD on a packet of tissues.

 

[HedgeHog]

Don't have GAIA's but have their Iso Pucks under my Focal Sub12 subwoofer (130lbs). Can't say if I hear any difference in sound but the sub was rattling the floor and now it's fine. So they work for vibration isolation, in my case. Just my observation.

 

[Thomas_A]

Ok, I see what you mean now: If there was distortion caused by coupling, it could have been removed by decoupling. Fair enough, but likely?

Varies from case to case. A speaker on a bench with hard and soft feet exemplified here:

Springs Under My Speakers: What's Happening?

Regarding the audibility I gave an example with a speaker placed on my hifi equipment rack with hard and soft speaker feet (sonic design). First two sweeps are hard coupling, last two with soft coupling. Perhaps an extreme example, but it shows the principle that applies...

www.audiosciencereview.com

What can be claimed is that if you want to reduce the risk for such distortion, use soft feet/decoupling.

 

[roxor]

Hello everyone,

I own a pair of B&W 805s with the original stands, and I’m trying to determine if there would be any benefit in using IsoAcoustics Gaia III isolators in my setup. Currently, the speakers are screwed into the stands, which are placed directly on a wooden floor (using b&w spikes)

Has anyone had any experience with a similar setup, and could you share whether the Gaia III would offer a noticeable improvement compared to more affordable options like the Soundcare Jupiter spikes?

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Purité Audio]

Save your money.
Keith

 

[roxor]

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Save your money.
Keith

bc my speakers are "lower" class? so no point to go into any spikes comparing to the default?