Fuses do affect sound, the question is how much

[Holmz]

The resolution is so high that you can discern the nano reflections of sound off the microphone's grill, which bounces back to the performer's face, mapping their facial expressions, which then is picked up by the microphone again. Kind of like a Sonar for vocalists.

Looking for the Dexy’s Midnight Runners…

 

[Sal1950]

How on earth can changing a fuse allow for anyone to discern the personality and facial expressions of the performers on a recording? What a vivid imagination! And then to distinguish the materials of different drum heads. What a gift to give yourself for $200!

If you can't see it, either your system doesn't have high enough resolution or your ears aren't trained well enough.

 

[3dbinCanada]

After arguing that some fuses "just didn’t have the musicality of" others, a grown man on another forum makes a strong argument in favor of spending more than $200 per fuse. Of course you can return them if you don't hear a great difference. I quote from about 12 posts down on this thread

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-new-synergistic-research-purple-fuses

"As my system continues to evolve, there is more body to the music...On vocals, not only do I hear the voice, but I can also discern the personality of the vocalist, even make out their facial expressions.

Percussion is particularly improved, with more dynamics and realism. For example, it is easy to discern the differences between animal skin drum heads vs acrylic drum heads. The correct woodiness of rim shots is amazing.

The piano is tonally correct including the lower registers. A friend brought over a Ramsey Lewis Trio CD this morning that featured a drummer that was using a cowbell as part of his ensemble. That cowbell was in the room along with the entire drumset. You’d have to hear it to understand."

How on earth can changing a fuse allow for anyone to discern the personality and facial expressions of the performers on a recording? What a vivid imagination! And then to distinguish the materials of different drum heads. What a gift to give yourself for $200!

I guess I've got to buy myself some fancy fuses because I can't tell what everyone looks like on my recordings. Or not.

But....audiophile caveat.....I'd "have to hear it to understand."

If only I'd just "trust my ears".

What a way to greet the day. A hot cup of coffee and a good laugh. Thankyou.

 

[mhardy6647]

The resolution is so high that you can discern the nano reflections of sound off the microphone's grill, which bounces back to the performer's face, mapping their facial expressions, which then is picked up by the microphone again. Kind of like a Sonar for vocalists.

Heck.. maybe even femtoreflections*, but only if one uses those Flemish, burnished bronze, kind of long, but not too long, plate Amperex ECC83s that @SIY mentioned recently in another thread**.


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* to which I can only offer a hearty and enthusiastic attoboy!
** https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...be-rolling-russian-6n3p-e.28779/#post-1001883 (I took a little artistic liberty with his description )

 

[Katji]

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"Due to the use of the new material Graphene, the BLACK Quantum Fuses need at least 75 hrs initial burn-in time and up to 200 hrs until the full performance potential is reached."

Friend sent me something about Graphene a couple days ago...apparently the vaccines contain it and it is like little microsopic scissors that lacerate the blood vessels.

 

[Somafunk]

I’d be having a word with him for regurgitating utter bollocks, or get better friends

Nope, tell him it’s bollocks and to get the bloody vaccine

 

[Katji]

I learned, quite a while ago, to just ignore it. I already heard every variant from her.
She's been quiet for a few days now... country that had 0 deaths until recently now has the army involved and Italian military helping out...and she's a teacher, so she's gonna have to make a choice very soon.

 

[Somafunk]

, when friends go like that it’s troubling, I’ve had a few good friends go wrong over the previous years

 

[Sal1950]

, when friends go like that it’s troubling, I’ve had a few good friends go wrong over the previous years

Someone get me a rope.

 

[Holmz]

I can ”see” how a glowing fuse in-line with a speaker could be audible… but many of these people claim that the fuse on the incoming power to an amplifier is audible.
These are two different things altogether with a power supply full or caps in one scenario.

 

[Cbdb2]

I was going to reply but I'm starting to think I'm wasting my time. When it comes to these too stupid to believe tweaks (or as a friend says "not enough O's in stooopid" ), I don't think anyone at ASR believes them anyway so not worth the reply. Preaching to the choir.

 

[Cbdb2]

Friend sent me something about Graphene a couple days ago...apparently the vaccines contain it and it is like little microsopic scissors that lacerate the blood vessels.

No theres no graphene oxide (which is not graphene, first lie) in the covid19 vaccine. The scissors part is also a lie made up by a moron. Graphene oxide may have actually helped the vaccine. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26814441/

Can pharma sue these lying idiots?

 

[Hipocrates]

That cowbell was in the room along with the entire drumset. You’d have to hear it to understand."

 

[antennaguru]

Back in the 80s and early 90s I enjoyed a set of Mission loudspeakers that came with protection fuses mounted on their rear panel. They were my first store-bought speakers, as I had previously only made my own speakers. I bought them because they were smaller stand mounted speakers than I could build myself with similar bass and other qualities I desired - back when I was living in a small apartment. Basically, Mission could accomplish the performance that I could with a two-way in a smaller cabinet than I could, and being newly married having smaller speakers would be better in our small living room.

Anyway, I noticed that the speaker fuses were very low current rating fuses, and also I knew the power amplifier I had built had a decent protection circuit that would not put DC across the speaker, so I made myself a set of "bypass fuses". I put a 1/4 inch wide strip of copper foil tape across the glass/ceramic part of a pair of fuses and then soldered the copper foil tape to the tinned fuse end caps.

So with one pair of regular fuses and one pair of "bypass fuses", of unknown but vastly higher current rating, I experimented with switching fuses and listening to music. I did this first myself, and then thinking I heard a difference tried running this test with several friends and also my wife listening. Only I knew which fuses were which, and which were installed at any point in time. I was careful to not give any cues as to which fuse I was using and I randomly swapped the fuses numerous times with each listener. Every person could identify that one of the sets of fuses had more bass impact than the other, and that was the pair of "bypass fuses". In the time I owned those speakers there was never a failure of any kind.

Finally, I know that Eminence sells pre-made crossovers with a tweeter protection lamp (light bulb) on their board. I have never used them but thought it was interesting. I believe they were pro-sound crossovers.

 

[Katji]

, when friends go like that it’s troubling, I’ve had a few good friends go wrong over the previous years

One word - Facebook. And underlying low capability of logical reasoning/etc. [Which is why this is not so off-topic.]
Yes, it's sad.

Can pharma sue these lying idiots?

One word - Facebook. Sue Facebook. Sort of a counter to all the media talk about "big pharma."
Some recent exposure with USA congress hearings/whatever but EU seems to be more about extracting money from Facebook [and other "big tech."]
Not nearly enough exposure.

 

[Holmz]

Back in the 80s and early 90s I enjoyed a set of Mission loudspeakers that came with protection fuses mounted on their rear panel. …

Where were they in the room?

 

[antennaguru]

Where were they in the room?

Mounted on short stands. It was a square room so after experimenting I found the best sound was with the speakers on sort of a diagonal but both facing the couch, and equidistant from the couch. When we bought our first house I moved those speakers to a much more normal shaped room, in fact one that sounded quite good and had dedicated power for the hi-fi gear. I did run that test again in the second room and re-confirmed the same conclusion that those tiny fuses were causing a negative effect, and the "bypass fuses" sounded better. The fuse wires were practically microscopic, a small fraction of the gauge of voice coil wire.

 

[Gregss]

Back in the 80s and early 90s I enjoyed a set of Mission loudspeakers that came with protection fuses mounted on their rear panel. They were my first store-bought speakers, as I had previously only made my own speakers. I bought them because they were smaller stand mounted speakers than I could build myself with similar bass and other qualities I desired - back when I was living in a small apartment. Basically, Mission could accomplish the performance that I could with a two-way in a smaller cabinet than I could, and being newly married having smaller speakers would be better in our small living room.

Anyway, I noticed that the speaker fuses were very low current rating fuses, and also I knew the power amplifier I had built had a decent protection circuit that would not put DC across the speaker, so I made myself a set of "bypass fuses". I put a 1/4 inch wide strip of copper foil tape across the glass/ceramic part of a pair of fuses and then soldered the copper foil tape to the tinned fuse end caps.

So with one pair of regular fuses and one pair of "bypass fuses", of unknown but vastly higher current rating, I experimented with switching fuses and listening to music. I did this first myself, and then thinking I heard a difference tried running this test with several friends and also my wife listening. Only I knew which fuses were which, and which were installed at any point in time. I was careful to not give any cues as to which fuse I was using and I randomly swapped the fuses numerous times with each listener. Every person could identify that one of the sets of fuses had more bass impact than the other, and that was the pair of "bypass fuses". In the time I owned those speakers there was never a failure of any kind.

Finally, I know that Eminence sells pre-made crossovers with a tweeter protection lamp (light bulb) on their board. I have never used them but thought it was interesting. I believe they were pro-sound crossovers.

Hello,

Yes, if the power supply is such that it is being limited by anything and unable to supply enough clean power to the amp, it will be a problem. Answer is to use a proper power supply (and fuse). Nothing unusual or unexpected about this. Quality of the supply can matter when it doesn't meet what is needed. Surprise.

 

[Holmz]

Mounted on short stands. It was a square room so after experimenting I found the best sound was with the speakers on sort of a diagonal but both facing the couch, and equidistant from the couch. When we bought our first house I moved those speakers to a much more normal shaped room, in fact one that sounded quite good and had dedicated power for the hi-fi gear. I did run that test again in the second room and re-confirmed the same conclusion that those tiny fuses were causing a negative effect, and the "bypass fuses" sounded better. The fuse wires were practically microscopic, a small fraction of the gauge of voice coil wire.

I meant were they in the missionary position?

 

[3dbinCanada]

I never understood the value of a fuses in loudspeakers. Is it to prevent over driving the speakers from someone reckless with the volume knob?