• Welcome to ASR. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

Fosi ZP3..

I loosely quote from instructional text in the 1970s AR Integrated amp - 'The controls can do the job of a loudness switch. Set the volume control to the desired loudness and then adjust the bass [and treble] controls for the best musical tonal balance!' (I loved the old AR amp at the time, but no idea how a well-preserved example would perform today
Dude! You've triggered me! ;)
1752323238718.png

source: https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/acoustic-research/amplifier.shtml
:)


On the Q8 page there's also a reference to a forthcoming (September) ZH3 preamp if you don't need HDMI... guess Fosi is doing the "throw spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks" approach to product development?
I am not complaining! :cool:
How about you?;)
So -- on topic (well... closer, at any rate): It dawns on me that companies (brands) like Fosi are selling products with "feature sets" that remind me of the Greatest Hits albums of major pop stars from the 1970s and 80s. Pick up a Greatest Hits album (e.g., Elton John's Greatest Hits) and invariably* it's missing one song that you really want. Solution: That song (Levon, in this case) will be on Elton John's Greatest Hits, Volume 2! You have to buy two different records. Capitalism! :)

Ahem. "On topic." Right. :rolleyes: Work with me, here -- the following is meant to be illustrative, if not allegorical. ;) Don't attach any significance to numbers or details. :) I am not pickin' on Fosi in particular, either!

These "throw products at the wall and see what sticks" brands will release a product (Product A) with, say ten features. You want them all, but there's one other feature (Feature 11) you really want -- and Product A doesn't have it!
Six months later, here comes Product A SE (special edition), with twelve features. Now it's got Feature 11, and two other features, but it deleted one of the original 10 you really wanted. But, it's only twenty dollars more than the Product A you already have, so you buy a Product A SE, too!
Eight months pass -- and, you guessed it: Product A Series II! Fifteen features -- all you want, and more besides! And only a thirty-five dollar premium over the original Product A!

Now you've got three of them.

Oh, and the resale value of the first two Product A variants is essentially zero.

oy.

EDIT: This is what students learn in business school, isn't it? ;)
_______________
* OK. almost invariably. ;)
 
Last edited:
Does anyone know of any other preamp/amp with a rotary encoder volume and no display of current volume setting? Is this a first for me.
 
At least the wxa-50 has the option to set a default volume setting when powered on...
 
...Oh, and the resale value of the first two Product A variants is essentially zero.
I shook my head in agreement until this above statement.
If one is purchasing with the 'purse' in mind; then, and in anticipation of the upcoming 4th [or Nth] product, the best practice would be to not buy that stock hardware.

But, I am inclined to think you are hoarder and don't purchase audio hardware for ROI but personal music enrichment.
I am a quasi-hoarder who dispenses with old-gen audio hardware ([Ahem. "On topic." Right.] ...including a Yamaha WXC-50) when my wallet gives me permission for that 4th (or Nth) gen.:)
 
I shook my head in agreement until this above statement.
If one is purchasing with the 'purse' in mind; then, and in anticipation of the upcoming 4th [or Nth] product, the best practice would be to not buy that stock hardware.

But, I am inclined to think you are hoarder and don't purchase audio hardware for ROI but personal music enrichment.
I am a quasi-hoarder who dispenses with old-gen audio hardware ([Ahem. "On topic." Right.] ...including a Yamaha WXC-50) when my wallet gives me permission for that 4th (or Nth) gen.:)
Are we the same person, or just twins separated at birth?
:cool:

On topic :rolleyes::p -- my earlier screed may belie my intent: I am mostly trying to talk myself out of buying one of these Fosi things! ;)
I already have a nice balanced preamp with which I am quite happy.
More balanced than I is said preamp, come to think of it.
:cool:
 
I want the ZP3, and will keep my eye on this one for release. The Q8.

View attachment 460926
My first thought: Wow, cool device with lots of connections and a great design.
My second thought: Lots of connections, but only one button. The operation will be a horror.
 
A 2 digit led volume display would be nice then
I think they might nail it with this one
Although the built in DAC will obviously raise the price quite a bit
 
I bought one. It was returned the next day. My very first Amazon return in all the years I used Amazon.
Dude...
You are scaring me now. I ordered one [just because!], that has not arrived yet.
The volume issue the XLR RCA vol difference, plus it added a hiss to my active speakers. I have gone back to the Fosi ZD3 feeding my actives and it being fed from my PC via optical.
It was a bit of a bit of an impulse purchase:)
I hope I don't become a pest to amazon and HAVE to return it, like you did.:D
 
Who has one that doesn't feel the volume is a big issue? I'm glad at least it isn't lossy digital. To be honest I'm reconsidering. I had ordered it but then cancelled due to the negative volume reviews, and ordered the P4. I has arrived and I love, love ,love the motorized volume, and HATE the size. It;s frigging minuscule. I'm thinking about returning it for the ZP3. The issue is I built a really nice all fosi dual mono amp setup. I now need a fosi pre to complete it and the P4 is like adjusting a carburetor needle when doing it manually. Help! What to do! There is the saga pre, but no orange knob!!!!! Must have orange!!!!! :cool:
 
Who has one that doesn't feel the volume is a big issue? I'm glad at least it isn't lossy digital. To be honest I'm reconsidering. I had ordered it but then cancelled due to the negative volume reviews, and ordered the P4. I has arrived and I love, love ,love the motorized volume, and HATE the size. It;s frigging minuscule. I'm thinking about returning it for the ZP3. The issue is I built a really nice all fosi dual mono amp setup. I now need a fosi pre to complete it and the P4 is like adjusting a carburetor needle when doing it manually. Help! What to do! There is the saga pre, but no orange knob!!!!! Must have orange!!!!! :cool:
No responses? Does that mean no one that has the ZP3 has got on with the volume? The fact that it remembers last volume level for each input mitigates the issue somewhat ( but not completely) for me.

Also, has anyone else heard this hiss reported above? I have not heard that being reported before?

Anyway, I packed up the P4 for return. 50% bigger and I would have kept it.
 
Back
Top Bottom