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Fosi Luna 3 Turntable..

Far be it from me to be a McIntosh apologist :rolleyes: but, in fairness to them, the gizmo @Brian Hall alludes to was/is a bizarre early 21st Century take on the old "all in one" phonograph - thus the tubes. :facepalm:

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... and, of course, not that such things have to have vacuum tubes. Back in the olden days (e.g., 1970, see below) low rent purveyors of audio products such as Lafayette Radio Electronics used those cheap, junky transistors. But the 21st Century McIntosh is innovative! :cool:

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Mac has sold (and perhaps still does - I don't know) "actual" turntables as such. 100% tube free.


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Their TOTL model (the MT10), laughably, was not, however, meter-free -- even though the meter didn't actually measure anything.

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Regrettably, this site's facepalm emoji :facepalm: is woefully inadequate in the present case...

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This one below i could live with though, easily!
the cheapest of the bunch is the prettiest.

 
This one below i could live with though, easily!
the cheapest of the bunch is the prettiest.

Watched the set up of this. He put no oil in the main bearing. Nice one.
 
The world is analog, and we digitize it.
That remains to be seen, according to Quantum physics, down at the deepest levels of reality everything is Quantisized, where the Planck-length and Planck-time are the smallest indivisible
units.
That looks more digital than analog to me!
 
From the pictures, it looks quite nice indeed!

Of course we don't know performance and price yet, but if the latter is modest, and performance good enough,( AKA in line with what the format can offer), they might have a winner here.
I wish them all the luck:)
 
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It's still analog at the size levels we normally experience. Going deeper into the micro-pico-atto realms, yes, things get more granular. I don't hear the individual steps in a digitized musical recording; it just sounds like a smooth continuous flow.
 
It's still analog at the size levels we normally experience. Going deeper into the micro-pico-atto realms, yes, things get more granular. I don't hear the individual steps in a digitized musical recording; it just sounds like a smooth continuous flow.
For me too,

I definitely don't hear "steps" and never did, not even with the first CD players LOL
 
I have one of these from Fosi for review/feedback for the last few weeks.

Is there a felt mat on top?
No. The platter is acrylic and I think the orange “mat” is made of it too.

Wonder if platter could be illuminated.
The orange mat picks up the dimmest of light and always looks illuminated. Rather pretty.

Looks like hard plastic feet and no suspension. Vibration will ruin any performance.
Not totally hard, not soft either. If placed on a solid surface – as any turntable should – you shouldn”t run into any issues.

acrylic turntable platter (...) the static created
Not an issue. Totally non-static.

price still unknown
Retail $350 according to Fosi in a Facebook comment. But there are always discounts to be found on their products. I will say, for that amount there is quite a lot of established and stiff competition (Pro-ject, Rega, Fluence in the US).

easy upgrade later would be the 95ML stylus
Can confirm Sounds much better, straight away. I think this is a great selling point for the Luna3, a clear and trivial upgrade path.

down at the deepest levels of reality
This is a nice player but you won’t hear Planck-length differences.
 

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I know nothing about turntables but was looking to get one for ages.

Is this a good one for the discounted kickstarter price (CAD $370) or should I pay a little more for an alternative? (budget is a non-issue, could go to ~CAD $1,000 if it's worth it).
 
That remains to be seen, according to Quantum physics, down at the deepest levels of reality everything is Quantisized, where the Planck-length and Planck-time are the smallest indivisible
units.
That looks more digital than analog to me!
Not to mention, the creation of light is a discrete process… and so is the detection of light (which occurs one electron at a time). Our brains perceive Nature to be analog, but much of Nature behaves as discrete (digital) processes.
 
I happened to check the Kickstarter campaign page when it had just a single backer, but within the hour, it's zoomed to 41, easily passing Fosi's modest $8917 goal.
 
Although there are no fixed standards for "hi-fi", I agree. By today's standards (really, since the CD was introduced in the 80's) the vinyl noise disqualifies it in my book.
(Also to the post Doug was responding to.) But this was posted in the Turntables, Phono Amplifier, Cartridges section of the forum.

Rick "it's a turntable" Denney
 
I play LP's on a decent T.T., arm & cartridge setup and take good care of the disks. I don't have a noise problem at all, although some used LP's I acquired are in poor shape and the noise, ticks & pops do intrude. LP noise and S.Q. are not as bad as they are often made out be, and the disks can provide an enjoyable listening experience. Of course, the LP is no match for a digital format such as the CD, when it comes to dynamic range, noise, and distortion. However, LP's, when played on a good system, can sound surprisingly good, such that improving the S.Q. of the playback would barely be audible.
 
Yikes! Just had a house shaking earthquake in Riverside CA a few minutes ago (9:32AM CA time). Glad my tonearm was locked in its rest position!
 
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270$ / 230€.

But they don't ship to China. I Have to wait when JD or Taobao will sell it...

Ha, stupid I am, I was looking for some alphabetical order... China is the first choice:

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EDIT : if the price is right I might just consider getting one to compare with my Rega P3.
Ive decided not. I've looked at used prices of P3's on ebay and they are only about £100 more than the early bird for this. So if I were to keep it and sell the P3 it would be almost a straight swap

The P3 has been my dream turntable for decades, so I'm not going to do that.

If someone in the south cheshire (UK) or north staffs areas gets one I'd be very interested in comparative recordings for blind testing though.
 
I don't see this as being quite as disruptive as the very cheap but excellent D Class amps have been.
Maybe there's brand loyalty/neatness factors and maybe there's a 'first flush' enthusiasm, but as far as I can see the difference between this and a P3 or similar established and proven products is barely distinguishable.
I mean, good luck to them and the more people using turntables the better, but if I was looking today I'd probably tend to the established.
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Pico nano levels - this is why I tend to think that even music produced/mastered digitally can sound analogue on a turntable, despite the horror of the traditional audiophile, it's not like the vinyl groove becomes 'steppy' in line with nano second on/offs.
 
but as far as I can see the difference between this and a P3
Except a P3 costs around three times as much.

A p1 might be a better comparison at only 65% more.
 
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