I'm not expert but I would really be surprised to see any difference.Does anybody have channel separation numbers for two units driven off the shared supply vs two dedicated single supplies? I'm really curious to see that impact!
No, you won't get the XLR benefits if you are just using a converter cable. You are I think likely to run into issues with loss of gain so, much as I like XLR, my suggestion is that you stay with RCA until you move to a true XLR source.So we should be using the XLR input instead of the RCA because of better SINAD.
Will the SINAD benefits of using the Amps XLR input be the same if my dac output is RCA, and I’m using a RCA>XLR cable?
I would have to spend a fair bit extra to get a balanced output dac, which I don’t think I need since I have short runs and no interference issues.
You make some good points! indeed, some of what we think is worth chasing maybe isn't when it comes to the final sound getting to our ear-brains.Why doesn’t it have volume knobs? I didn’t realize until after ordering, that I will need to get a pre amp capable dac (TOPPING D50 III).
Since the dac in WiiM mini is not good, and the RCA input in the fosi v3 doesn’t have good SINAD, I can’t just use the WiiM mini as an all in one.
Lastly, you can’t control the TOPPING D50 III via an app, so I have to use some crappy remote to change the volume.
And I can’t connect my subwoofer to the TOPPING D50 III or Fosi v3..
I didn’t know how good I had it with my all in one denon avr 3500… which was like $500 and is still going strong 8 years later.
Sub out,full control heos/denon wifi app, direct connected usb storage lossless playback (will miss this the most), dsp, multi zone, Airplay 2.
Single component systems feel like a big step back in actual convenience features, this “superior” sound better be audible. Rant over.
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This is a mono power amp. How practical is it to have a volume knob? You want to walk over, turn the knob of left channel amp, then turn the knob of right channel amp? How well channel balancing do you think that will get you?Why doesn’t it have volume knobs? I didn’t realize until after ordering, that I will need to get a pre amp capable dac (TOPPING D50 III).
I use this to convert rca to xlr. Works great & is inexpensive. ART CLEANBox Pro Dual Channel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003S7T49K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shareNo, you won't get the XLR benefits if you are just using a converter cable. You are I think likely to run into issues with loss of gain so, much as I like XLR, my suggestion is that you stay with RCA until you move to a true XLR source.
Sure. A correctly wired (not all are) converter cable will work fine, but you are generally better off going XLR->XLR or RCA->RCA and the only real use case is when one of your bits of kit can only do RCA and the other can only do XLR.I use this to convert rca to xlr. Works great & is inexpensive. ART CLEANBox Pro Dual Channel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003S7T49K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Not the nicest solution, as most of these boxes.I use this to convert rca to xlr. Works great & is inexpensive. ART CLEANBox Pro Dual Channel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003S7T49K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Exactly - I was surprised by the question - not least because - how much research was done pre-purchase to be annoyed that a mono amp didn't have volume control.This is a mono power amp. How practical is it to have a volume knob? You want to walk over, turn the knob of left channel amp, then turn the knob of right channel amp? How well channel balancing do you think that will get you?
"so I have to use some crappy remote to change the volume"Why doesn’t it have volume knobs? I didn’t realize until after ordering, that I will need to get a pre amp capable dac (TOPPING D50 III).
Since the dac in WiiM mini is not good, and the RCA input in the fosi v3 doesn’t have good SINAD, I can’t just use the WiiM mini as an all in one.
Lastly, you can’t control the TOPPING D50 III via an app, so I have to use some crappy remote to change the volume.
And I can’t connect my subwoofer to the TOPPING D50 III or Fosi v3..
I didn’t know how good I had it with my all in one denon avr 3500… which was like $500 and is still going strong 8 years later.
Sub out,full control heos/denon wifi app, direct connected usb storage lossless playback (will miss this the most), dsp, multi zone, Airplay 2.
Single component systems feel like a big step back in actual convenience features, this “superior” sound better be audible. Rant over.
If I run my mini to the dac, I can still change the volume on the mini app? I assumed the dac would be taking over volume control and treating the mini as a fixed signal."so I have to use some crappy remote to change the volume"
Let's think. You could use the volume control in whatever app you are using to play your music. You could use the volume control on the Wiim Mini. You could use the Wiim home app. You could use the front panel volume control on the DAC. How many alternatives do you want?
You are right though, component systems are a generally a big step back in convenience *unless* you carefully choose your components to have the type of controls, ergonomics and integration that you want. For many of us that is a lesser priority so we put up with some inconvenience in exchange for other preferences in our choices. Separates are not the best choice for all/most folks and something like a Wiim Amp Ultra can be an attractive modern option that takes away the complexity of fitting together different bits of kit into a well performing and unified system.
My bad, I’m still new to this all and it’s been a few days of non stop research and some basic things I have overlooked in the confusion.Exactly - I was surprised by the question - not least because - how much research was done pre-purchase to be annoyed that a mono amp didn't have volume control.
Yes. The Mini will reduce the signal digitally, just as your DAC would when using its volume control.I run my mini to the dac, I can still change the volume on the mini app?
We've all done it (well, I have!)My bad, I’m still new to this all and it’s been a few days of non stop research and some basic things I have overlooked in the confusion.
Sorry - my post was unpleasnt. It is too easy to forget we are all at different stages of knowledge, and I have also made some howlers.My bad, I’m still new to this all and it’s been a few days of non stop research and some basic things I have overlooked in the confusion.
Yes but & lot of preamps or AVR's don't have xlr out, although we are seeing more low cost brands like Fosi & Aiyama have them. The good thing about the CleanBox is you can also adjust the voltaage. This was helpful in my case where my Yamaha RX-A4A preout RCA voltage is low.Sure. A correctly wired (not all are) converter cable will work fine, but you are generally better off going XLR->XLR or RCA->RCA and the only real use case is when one of your bits of kit can only do RCA and the other can only do XLR.