For Sale, THREE / BXT System White

[DSJR]

You are right, those second hand Kii speakers are way overpriced. No loudspeakers, no matter the brand, need to cost that much.

A better suggestion, for most, is to put more effort towards optimizing the speaker system they already have, and do something about their listening room acoustics. Those things will most likely be way larger upgrades to the sound quality, than constantly believing getting new speakers will somehow magically make a big different.

I have to disagree here as regards pricing. I've had it drummed into me in fairly recent times that the parts cost is a small fraction of the total expences in a product of this nature. The curvy cabinets won't be cheap if made in smaller quantities and getting a good gloss finish will be many hundreds extra over the probably high price of the raw cabinet/enclosure. I doubt all those bass units would be cheap either and of course there's the assembly and test staff wages to pay, let alone costs of running a factory/warehouse premises and financing the company...

I very much doubt the Kiis are made by the hundreds, let alone thousands as a cheap dac is, for example. I suspect batches of ten or maybe twenty pairs at a time (I don't know, just remembering how other speaker makers did it back in my day). ATC even in the nineties, used to make 50s upwards to order and rarely more than three pairs on the go at any one time I seem to remember. Only the drivers and the then stand mount 10s and 20s were made in complete batches and it wasn't a huge number of pairs at a time I recall.

Hope they find a good home

 

[Purité Audio]

The drivers Kii use I believe pretty modestly priced, but the underlying engineering is good, courtesy of course of Mr Putzeys, who has been responsible for:-
Grimm LS1
Kii Three
Hypex and now Purifi with Lars.
Keith

 

[somebodyelse]

Gloss White which is a ‘premium’ finish is a £3295 surcharge!
Keith

That's a lot of inflation since post #4!

 

[Purité Audio]

Forget to add the extra paint for the BXTs!
Keith

 

[Purité Audio]

That's a lot of inflation since post #4!

OK, after exhaustive research,
Kii THREE / BLT standard colours (matt white/matt grey) rrp is £27595
With a premium colour ie Gloss White, which this pair are,
£30750,
Which means a ‘premium’ colour is £3155.00
Keith

 

[Adi777]

Having said that, contemporary constant directivity/ cardioid designs don’t require the passive absorption of traditional designs.

The measurements in my room tell a different story. Okay, maybe my measurements aren't perfect, but as I can see on REW, I have a lot of acoustic work to do.
My speakers have also cardioid low frequency.

 

[Purité Audio]

What are you using?
Keith

 

[Adi777]

What are you using?

Soundfield Audio, custom speakers. Maybe cardioid in my SA are not so good like in another cardioid speakers, but still - are cardioid.

 

[Purité Audio]

Yes I saw your room measurements in the other thread not good.

 

[Ilkless]

That is a huge assumption without knowing any conversations between PURITE and the customer.

And ironic coming from an ATC devotee like the user you were replying to

 

[Purité Audio]

And ironic coming from an ATC devotee like the user you were replying to

Yes….!
Here was our Kii/BXT, D&D, Grimm LS1 and in the foreground Gradient 1.4 which are really excellent/

 

[Purité Audio]

ATC active 50s, D&D8C and 8M and Kii shootout.

Hearing everything together in the same room at the same time was really valuable.
Keith

 

[OldHvyMec]

All loudspeakers sounds better in a well behaved and acoustically well-balanced environment where the listening room dosen’t interfere too much with the recorded information.

Absolutely. Silly statement to suggest otherwise. The room is by far the largest elephant in any room. But then I'm not in the speaker building and selling business anymore. I'm just glad most of my old customers were able to move their gear at the end of their lives. I'm getting there. 350-600 lb speakers don't move themselves.

SATs are a lot more practical. I just finished a pair of 150lb subs. Last heavy pair for me.

Almost time to feed the chickens!

Regards

 

[Purité Audio]

To re-iterate when a loudspeaker’s off-axis response mirrors its on-axis, D&D 8C AsciLab C8C for example, adding partial absorption to first reflection points is actually detrimental to sound quality.
Cardioid response already helps SBIR and in built EQ takes care of room gain.
It is simply far easier to obtain great sound with contemporary active designs.
Keith

 

[goat76]

A room with bad acoustics is a room with bad acoustics, no matter what loudspeakers you put in that room. It may be so that loudspeakers with good directivity is a little more forgiving than loudspeakers with bad directivity in that room with bad acoustics, but the room will still sound bad for music reproduction, again, no matter what loudspeakers you use.

 

[Purité Audio]

I haven’t really found that to be the case, no domestic room is perfect, but I have found traditionally furnished rooms ( which are by far the majority that I have experienced ) can sound really good once the gross bass errors have been dealt with.
Cardioid response helps, constant directivity, the ability to completely adjust the bass output and in-built EQ makes obtaining a really great sound straightforward.
Keith

 

[Purité Audio]

Kit THREE/BXT and KIi Control,

white gloss bump, excellent condition and the cheapest set around.
Keith

 

[goat76]

Do you have any distortion level measurements at 96dB for these speakers to share?

 

[Purité Audio]

I appreciate your contributions but perhaps start another thread, this one is just advertising a pair of loudspeakers.
An ATC fan asking for distortion measurements is richly ironic, however…
Keith

 

[fyzzz]

I would seriously consider purchasing it if the price is in USD and it can ship to the U.S. without additional cost...